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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening fade to black

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how you doing today's tuesday may 24th

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it's gonna be a great night let's do

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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changer and on x networks racehobbs

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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tonight's

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night number two we welcome a very

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faded blocks tomorrow night

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he's with us for night three

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thursday is another fader night with

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i've got a very very busy month coming

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up now we've sold out our tour

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billy carson's black knight film

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and if you would like to attend and

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the world all right it was a sad day

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along with all of you the story

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have pinpointed the source

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of that famous alien broadcast

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that has a temperature a diameter and a

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luminosity almost identical to our own

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the process of locating this particular

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the wow signal came in the wild signal

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million miles which is not that far

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potentially hazardous meaning it could

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do enormous damage to our planet if his

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year it hopes to fly deliveries from 34

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all right well a team of neuroscience

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the technology that makes it possible to

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that's right food fight flipped over

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let's get this show cracking on this day

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in history

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samuel morse that's right morse code

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samuel morris demonstrates the telegraph

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set the world record for the highest

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is your fader fact

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tonight we welcome very special guest

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top of the hour tomorrow night ron james

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for night three

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night

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time for me to hit this river moon

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river rivermoonwellness.com

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oh yeah

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kaz is that jean-boulet

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is that jean-blue

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is that the helicopter

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that looks like the helicopter from the

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i mean the same type of helicopter

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and i almost started watching the

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prisoner again god i've seen the series

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beginning to end a complete

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50 times

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so

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last year

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at a conference

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and

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a statement which

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most don't want to hear but they agreed

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to every word of it

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in that

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i would say most of our community

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blinders on

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and

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yeah i'm trying to change that

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um

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i have a very open mind

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about things and i'm very inquisitive

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but i'm also a realist

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and i have um

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i have

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done way too many interviews and

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and uh way too many conversations and i

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have i've acquired a lot of knowledge

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and it's even changed my perspective on

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things uh in fact i've gone back and

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forth a few times

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uh

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maybe even more than a few but here's my

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point

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let me get straight to it here we are

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wow

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when i gave that speech last year at the

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conference and it was about 10 minutes

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long 15 minutes long but i felt like i

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had to get just get it out there

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and

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what i had said at that time

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okay

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and it's really strange

341
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how things just come to pass but

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what i had said at that time

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is that

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although

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i am happy

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with the progress that this community is

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is seeing

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and our move towards uh movement towards

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disclosure

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um these

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are exciting times and i said that this

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is a year ago

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and and i continued with

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i'm going to paraphrase myself but i

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continued with

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um

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we have to keep the pressure on

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but not for the reasons that you may

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we cannot allow

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our government that includes the

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military and the department of defense

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and all the agencies and anybody else

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that has information about

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ufos

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excuse me

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it's got something in my throat normally

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i hit the mute button and i don't do

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that on the air but sometimes it happens

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uh i was on the phone all day today by

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the way

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um

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we cannot

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relax

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no matter how fun it is right now

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but why can't we relax even just a

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little bit

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we cannot relax

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not for the information i mean that's

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part of it

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not for disclosure

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itself that's part of it too no

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we can't relax

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for all of those out there

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that have had a sighting

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and are afraid to talk about it

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with their friends with their family

387
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that maybe they've made some kind of

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contact maybe they've seen something

389
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maybe

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other things have happened

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right

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but they can't talk about it they won't

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talk about it

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school or with family sitting around the

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dinner table

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uh with your loved ones with your

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husband with your wife

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can't

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and most don't some some a few choose to

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but most don't

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and the reason is very very simple

402
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nobody wants to be embarrassed

403
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nobody wants to lose their job nobody

404
00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:17,200
wants to start their career path nobody

405
00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:20,000
wants rumors going on about them nobody

406
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wants to be a part of a soap opera

407
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:24,960
and that's just natural and i totally

408
00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:26,320
get it

409
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and that's why

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we cannot relax

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we can't

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we simply can't relax

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for them

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they need to be able to

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one day

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hold their head up high

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i told you so

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i saw something but you wouldn't believe

419
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me so i couldn't talk about it it's been

420
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stressing me out all these years i think

421
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about it every single day

422
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i saw what i saw and now

423
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now it's being talked about the the

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reality of the situation is out in the

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open

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that's that's why we do it

427
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we can't have our own little selfish

428
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reasons for it we have to do it for

429
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everybody

430
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when you look at me

431
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i am a mirror of you

432
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okay i'm a mirror

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and

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putting

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an expectation on me

436
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to to push this or to drive or this or

437
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or be angry or be upset or be any of

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00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:43,679
those things i am you

439
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:46,080
and i'm trying to get to the end of this

440
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and find these answers just like you are

441
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but i'm also

442
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very excited and very happy about the

443
00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:55,520
position that we are in today

444
00:21:59,990 --> 00:21:59,039
now why should we keep the pressure on

445
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okay

446
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:02,559
i'm not going to be a loudmouth host

447
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:04,080
you know that's screaming from the top

448
00:22:08,789 --> 00:22:06,559
of the trees and getting everybody angry

449
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:08,799
and all riled up or think that i'm

450
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:11,440
getting everybody angry and all riled up

451
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i'm not i'm never good no my approach is

452
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:16,159
the exact opposite of that

453
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my

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me

455
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i'm a mirror of you

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i'm trying to get through this and

457
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:26,480
trying to get to these answers

458
00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:29,760
but here's the deal

459
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if we do

460
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relax

461
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is the movement that we are have been

462
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:46,640
having

463
00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:50,400
is it because there is some pressure

464
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absolutely

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00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,960
and that pressure continues and

466
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and i had said last year at the

467
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conference

468
00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:02,320
i said something pretty pretty gnarly

469
00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:04,640
but in retrospect i really meant it and

470
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:07,280
i said we need to keep our foot on the

471
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:10,559
neck of the man right

472
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:11,600
you know

473
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:12,559
in that

474
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:16,960
we can't we can't let him get away

475
00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:19,520
we can't let him think that it's okay

476
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:21,440
that that it's all over and that the

477
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:24,559
smoke is cleared and they can just go on

478
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,000
doing what they've been doing no we

479
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:28,000
can't allow that to happen

480
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:30,960
and now here's here's the other part to

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i i said those words

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last year

483
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:42,799
i didn't say these words after the

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00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,559
hearing

485
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:46,559
that was last week on may 17th i didn't

486
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i didn't use those words

487
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like now i said this a year ago

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and

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00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:01,269
the the fact that the hearing happened

490
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and there will be more

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00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:05,440
is because

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00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:06,960
of pressure

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00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:10,640
but pressure applied the correct way

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i can assure you of this

495
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and you need to listen to every word

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that i'm about to say

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those hearings

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are

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moves on a chess board

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in the background

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that are complicated

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00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:35,039
that are thought out

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00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:37,279
you've got opposing forces pushing up

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against each other

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and you have to make your move and

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they're going to make another move in

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and then this and that back and forth

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00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:49,039
very strategically played out

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and

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the community

511
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:53,200
doesn't know any of this

512
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:55,279
the community just wants this now why

513
00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:57,120
can't this happen now

514
00:25:03,110 --> 00:24:59,279
it can't

515
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:03,120
but strategically

516
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:06,080
we have to keep the pressure on

517
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:08,799
and there are people doing that

518
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:11,279
doing just that

519
00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:13,520
now here's the deal

520
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:16,400
with with everything that is happening

521
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:19,360
there is going to be those

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00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:22,240
in our community that are going to say

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00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:23,679
it's not enough

524
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:26,480
it was bogus there was nothing there

525
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:28,960
right well that approach

526
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is somebody's opinion and that's fine

527
00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:34,240
but the truth is

528
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it happened

529
00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:39,520
the you will f the ufo hearing took

530
00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:43,039
place on may 17th

531
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6 a.m

532
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:46,400
it happened

533
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:49,600
and in that part

534
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:52,480
everybody that's in motion right now

535
00:26:02,630 --> 00:25:59,830
it wasn't enough

536
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:02,640
we need more

537
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,760
that is the view that we all have to

538
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:07,200
have

539
00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:10,480
it's not about saying it sucked it's

540
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,440
about saying that's great that's cool

541
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:15,360
it's a good first start

542
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:18,240
but it wasn't enough we need more and we

543
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:20,000
just learned from this so now we have to

544
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:21,760
do this with videos we have to do this

545
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,360
with presentations we have to do this

546
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:25,520
with witnesses we have to do this with

547
00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:27,760
evidence and the investigation on insta

548
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,240
incidents and we have to bring different

549
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:31,840
elements forward we have to bring

550
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:35,120
science into play that's what you do

551
00:26:40,149 --> 00:26:36,880
and strategically

552
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:40,159
you move this forward

553
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:41,520
none of this is going to happen

554
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:43,760
overnight the fact that it happened last

555
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:47,600
tuesday was extraordinary

556
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:50,799
and that's why we keep the pressure on

557
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:52,159
we do it for the members of this

558
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,559
community so that they can hold their

559
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:56,640
head high so people can talk about this

560
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:59,039
now out of the open without ridicule i'm

561
00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:00,640
not speaking specifically about the

562
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,480
witnesses yeah

563
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:04,559
they're included in this but there is

564
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:07,360
everybody else

565
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:08,480
my

566
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:12,240
i'm when i say i am a mirror of you

567
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:14,480
i had those same challenges

568
00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:16,720
as a talk show host

569
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:19,760
speaking to the largest audience of this

570
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,960
community

571
00:27:24,389 --> 00:27:22,080
um

572
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:24,399
i i

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00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,159
had to make a choice do i talk about

574
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:30,559
my ufo sightings

575
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:33,039
do i talk about whatever ghosts do i

576
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:34,799
talk about these things

577
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:36,799
my own experiences what's going to

578
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:37,679
happen

579
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:40,799
am i going to get brought down am i

580
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:41,679
going to be

581
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:42,480
uh

582
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:44,880
brought into a soap opera am i going to

583
00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:47,520
be made fun of am i going to not be

584
00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:50,000
taken serious

585
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:53,840
i'm up against it as well i chose to

586
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:55,760
speak about my experiences and my

587
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,120
sightings

588
00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:00,240
in support of not only uh the community

589
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:02,240
but for everybody out there i'm talking

590
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:03,679
about the community that was standing

591
00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:06,000
around me at the at that time but the

592
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,760
rest of the community too

593
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,600
and that they can call into the show

594
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:11,360
share their experiences because they

595
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:14,159
know i'm going to listen

596
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:16,799
and that's where we are today

597
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:21,120
these are very very exciting times

598
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:23,679
i am now in a position that i want you

599
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:26,159
to share with me

600
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:28,480
we're not in a year to year

601
00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:30,000
is this going to be the year is this

602
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:33,279
going to be the year i think we are now

603
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:36,720
in a week to week position

604
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:38,720
week to week

605
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:40,960
something could happen next week

606
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:42,480
and the week after

607
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:46,559
is open it's not cracked i think the

608
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:48,640
door is swung wide open

609
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:51,039
and right now there are important people

610
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:53,840
working on this one of those guests or

611
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:55,679
one of those people is is my guest

612
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:57,360
tonight sean cahill

613
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:01,520
who absolutely is in a position

614
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:03,760
to make change

615
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:06,320
and that's our show tonight

616
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:09,200
sean cahill is with us now i will say

617
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:10,960
this really quick

618
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:15,360
um uh luella zondo is traveling he's on

619
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:18,080
a plane as he as i speak to you right

620
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:19,039
now

621
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:21,600
and he had to cancel he's never canceled

622
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:22,960
on the show

623
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:26,640
um but he senses well wishes to all of

624
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,440
you

625
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:29,520
um he wishes that he could be here

626
00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:32,000
tonight obviously we planned this show

627
00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:33,039
out for

628
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:35,919
for a while and we are very excited but

629
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:39,679
he's busy he is doing things

630
00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:42,799
so uh at the top of the hour we'll be

631
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:45,360
bringing in race hobbs and i want to get

632
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,039
race hobbs opinion

633
00:29:51,909 --> 00:29:49,679
uh about what is going on and certainly

634
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,919
race is in a position as general manager

635
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:53,440
of this network

636
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:55,679
um but also an investigator for many

637
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:58,559
many years and he's uh so respected by

638
00:30:03,190 --> 00:29:59,760
all of you

639
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:03,200
and and lou elizando's shoes are big

640
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,799
and who feels them well you need the big

641
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:06,559
man himself you need race hob so he's

642
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:07,919
going to be with us at the top of the

643
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:10,080
hour when i come back after this short

644
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:12,480
break we'll be joined

645
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:14,720
with sean cahill i'm your host jimmy

646
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:17,440
church this is fade to black these are

647
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:20,240
the most exciting times in the history

648
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:24,000
of not only ufology but maybe of planet

649
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:25,679
earth

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00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:28,320
that's right this is fade to black

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and the game changer and on x networks

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this is night two of ufo week here on

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fade to black i'll be right back after

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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network

711
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:03,760
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

712
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:05,039
you're listening to jimmy's church

713
00:34:13,899 --> 00:34:11,589
what's up chris what up this is jimmy

714
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:13,909
church radio

715
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:34,470
all right welcome back

716
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,280
man my throat

717
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:39,829
[Music]

718
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:43,520
oh man broadcasting 101 and i'm going

719
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:45,679
through it tonight it's it's just too

720
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:48,320
funny after what 2000 shows you guys

721
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:50,720
have never heard me clear my throat on

722
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,079
the air that's three times in one night

723
00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:56,879
uh i'll never make it to the

724
00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:00,240
radio broadcasting hall of fame now

725
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:02,960
all right tonight is night two

726
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:05,200
of our ufo hearing week right here on

727
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:06,560
fade to black

728
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:09,839
and uh an extraordinary extraordinary

729
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:12,079
week uh to follow up an extraordinary

730
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,560
hearing last tuesday may 17th

731
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:16,480
uh tonight we have sean cahill with us

732
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:18,160
race hobbs will join us at the top of

733
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,119
the hour

734
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:21,599
uh tomorrow night of course ron james of

735
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,200
mufon will be here chief cahill

736
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:27,119
served in the united states navy from

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00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:30,640
1995 to 2015. he was entrusted with

738
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:32,000
critical missions spanning

739
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,280
anti-terrorism anti-piracy interrogation

740
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:38,000
and investigations chief cahill retired

741
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:42,240
from the u.s navy in 2015 and of course

742
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:45,280
there is the nimitz encounter

743
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:48,079
all of that has transpired into

744
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:52,079
crazy days today here in 2022 and i

745
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:53,599
would like to welcome back to fade to

746
00:35:57,829 --> 00:35:54,800
black

747
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:57,839
sean cahill this is the thing shawn

748
00:36:01,510 --> 00:36:00,400
before i get started

749
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:01,520
chief

750
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:02,480
you know

751
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,520
it's so funny i look at you today

752
00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:07,200
and uh

753
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:09,040
and and i know i mentioned this to you

754
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:11,040
before but when you look at your

755
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:14,160
official navy photograph right the

756
00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:18,320
official and is you

757
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:21,040
do you feel that you've changed are you

758
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:23,440
oh i have yeah

759
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:27,599
or were you the cool officer on deck

760
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:29,440
there was there was a sheen of that but

761
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:31,200
i wouldn't take credit for that being

762
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:33,920
the uh the way a lot of the uh sailors

763
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:35,520
looked at me um

764
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:37,440
i was a hard ass but i was the guy that

765
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:38,720
after i yelled at you i'd pull you

766
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:40,560
around you know after you were

767
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:42,880
adjudicated and already on restriction i

768
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:44,560
i was cool to you i treated you like a

769
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:46,800
human being and tried to help you

770
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:50,160
get out of that stage of your youth

771
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:51,839
but um

772
00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:54,000
while breaking the rules and and and up

773
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:56,079
into that point where you had to go

774
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:57,760
before the captain in the chief's mess

775
00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:59,920
and kind of hang your head and

776
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:01,760
and take your lumps up until that point

777
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:04,640
no i had no fan i had very few fans i

778
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:06,240
got to tell you when you look at your

779
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:08,000
official navy photograph i was gonna

780
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:10,480
post it right now i'm not let's let's

781
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:12,400
not go there but

782
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:14,480
you scare the crap out of me man you

783
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:16,320
look at that picture you're like he

784
00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:19,440
meant business but uh and you still do

785
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:21,839
um i want to uh to say this i'm gonna

786
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:23,680
throw you under the bus just a little

787
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,400
bit

788
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:26,640
um in this transition something

789
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:29,359
extraordinary happened uh

790
00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:31,839
between the two of us earlier tonight

791
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:33,359
in that

792
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:36,960
you showed me your recording studio

793
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:40,640
yeah and so chief cahill here everybody

794
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:42,720
has got his guitar his base his drums

795
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:44,960
his recording gear and it's all set up

796
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:47,920
uh right there in his living room

797
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,640
you have the coolest wife uh on planet

798
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:52,320
earth uh there's no

799
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:54,640
if that stuff goes down you've got a

800
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:56,480
cool wife that's all i'm saying she gave

801
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:58,640
up the living room but a really cool

802
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,480
family when i play the drums they just

803
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:02,640
turn the tv up they live with it we all

804
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:04,400
live in the same space together and just

805
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,040
make it happen so shout out to my girls

806
00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:09,599
too did you always i want to talk ufos

807
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:12,560
tonight but uh this revelation

808
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,040
uh everybody shawn and i uh for

809
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:17,520
soundcheck instead of doing a soundcheck

810
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:20,880
we talked guitars and music uh for 20 25

811
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:24,720
minutes up to the start of the show um

812
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:27,599
were you always a musician

813
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:30,079
pretty much i mean i got my first guitar

814
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:32,079
when i was about 10 and then took some

815
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:34,720
lessons and shoved it under the bed for

816
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:35,599
about

817
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:37,280
four or five years and then me and some

818
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:38,160
friends

819
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:40,160
all lied to each other about how good we

820
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:42,400
were at playing instruments we had under

821
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:44,720
our beds and then one day pulled them

822
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:46,000
out and got together and realized we

823
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:47,760
were all full of it and then taught each

824
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:50,560
other how to play basically

825
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:52,240
yeah i haven't stopped since it's kind

826
00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:57,990
you two got their start nobody could

827
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:01,200
play they kind of bs each other um and

828
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:02,880
and learned on the fly

829
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:04,960
um but yeah that that's just

830
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:08,000
extraordinary to me and in that

831
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:10,480
um there's something about especially in

832
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:13,599
these trying times that that we are f we

833
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:15,520
find ourselves in not only with you know

834
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:18,720
ufos and uaps but all the other drama uh

835
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:21,599
that is uh that's been going down uh for

836
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:24,160
so many years now it's a great release

837
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:27,119
to be able to just pick up an instrument

838
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:30,240
and and escape the the darkness of the

839
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:32,640
world and write a song and and maybe

840
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:35,040
even record it right yeah i totally

841
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:36,400
agree it's it's probably the most

842
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,920
cathartic

843
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:39,680
art that i do and i do a little bit of

844
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:41,839
everything but there's nothing quite

845
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:43,920
like it about because you you create a

846
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:45,119
residence you know we could get all

847
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:47,040
woo-woo about it but you you become part

848
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,960
of that music that you create and even

849
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:50,720
when you're playing someone else's music

850
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:52,960
you know you're in lockstep with them

851
00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:54,400
you know so there's something really

852
00:40:02,150 --> 00:39:57,920
cool going on yeah um uh there's there's

853
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:02,160
a strange relation uh to guitars

854
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:03,839
and ufos

855
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:06,560
and and i'll tell you what it is and i

856
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:08,160
just want your reaction to this and then

857
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:11,040
we'll get to the hearing

858
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:13,119
it's vibrations

859
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:15,760
right and and so

860
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:16,480
if

861
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:20,480
the the idea behind string theory

862
00:40:25,829 --> 00:40:22,240
is strings

863
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:25,839
strings vibrating this right here that

864
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:28,400
is string theory

865
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:29,359
that

866
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:31,760
yeah and so

867
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:34,480
can it be not everything

868
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:38,800
but can it be that some of the phenomena

869
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:41,520
that we witness and see

870
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:45,359
on with our own eyes or on

871
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:47,040
technical

872
00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:50,160
navy radar sensor detection equipment

873
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:52,319
is something that's coming in on our

874
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:55,680
frequency at that vibration at that time

875
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:58,240
from another dimension or

876
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,960
or a parallel world

877
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:02,640
i think that those are those are highly

878
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:05,520
plausible hypothesis um i think i've

879
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:07,040
talked to a lot of musicians who are

880
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:10,160
experiencers and singers and songwriters

881
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:12,560
people who are very very deep and adept

882
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:15,520
at the art and um there is something

883
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:18,400
about people who resonate with something

884
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:20,560
else very frequently

885
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,640
um that there's there seems to be a

886
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:24,000
different level of perception a little

887
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,440
bit going on that they're they're

888
00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:27,359
they're checking everything out a little

889
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,720
bit different than the rest of us are

890
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:30,640
because they're used to i see these

891
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:32,240
these are all going to sound like terms

892
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:33,359
but they're used to vibing with

893
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:34,800
something they're used to resonating and

894
00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:36,079
harmonizing

895
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:38,960
and um so they find that resonance and

896
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,839
harmony elsewhere uh it's it's i think

897
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:43,520
it's all a very

898
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:45,119
interesting and frankly charming

899
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,160
hypothesis yeah yeah well you know

900
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:49,839
there's woo-woo

901
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:52,079
there's even woo-woo i don't go into

902
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:54,480
right okay so let's

903
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:57,680
but i enjoy it i enjoy the conversation

904
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:00,960
but there's also the woo-woo of physics

905
00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:04,000
man there's the woo of science

906
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:06,079
where we're talking about string theory

907
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:08,880
and 11 dimensions and entanglement and

908
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:10,400
the multiverse

909
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:13,040
and folding space and time and

910
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:16,240
relativity and and all there's a serious

911
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,000
woo-woo to physics

912
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:20,640
that applies right back into the crazy

913
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:22,160
of this community

914
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:23,839
and soon

915
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:26,720
the the two may meet

916
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,400
yeah i mean for a long time there's been

917
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:30,880
kind of an embargo on on that level of

918
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:32,560
science where the only people that we

919
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:34,240
really wanted to hear it from was that

920
00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:36,000
the actual quantum physicists you know

921
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,920
and the stephen hawkings and the other

922
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:39,599
science communicators

923
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:42,079
but at this point the the generalists

924
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:43,520
need to get into the conversation

925
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:44,640
because the

926
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:46,079
the people that were focused in those

927
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:47,599
areas were like

928
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:48,960
once the generalists would say well

929
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:51,040
doesn't that scale to this and doesn't

930
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:53,119
doesn't that extrapolate out and mean

931
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:54,319
this they would say oh no you can't get

932
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:55,599
there from here the energy levels are

933
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:57,119
way too high just go home

934
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,400
you know and

935
00:43:02,230 --> 00:43:00,400
we we can see that as we as our

936
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:02,240
technology grows and everything that our

937
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:05,040
energy levels grow and so more and more

938
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:07,119
of the universe becomes available to us

939
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:08,079
so

940
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:10,319
um i i think that we are headed for

941
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:12,079
something new i think people are

942
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:14,480
starting to put the esoteric and and the

943
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,440
and the

944
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:17,040
let's call it exotic if we're talking

945
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:19,119
about technology but those two things

946
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,480
together a little bit and there are

947
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,240
there's there's a great deal of

948
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:24,319
crossover that's going to happen i think

949
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:27,760
now um let's uh let's let's get to the

950
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:31,200
hearing there's so much to unpack here

951
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:32,160
um

952
00:43:34,870 --> 00:43:33,280
and

953
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:34,880
i don't

954
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:37,599
you had said something to me um

955
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,000
that i want to share with the audience

956
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:42,480
um if you don't mind uh

957
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:45,359
don't don't disconnect the show and and

958
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:47,440
flip over your desk right now but you

959
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:50,800
had said to me a very very relative

960
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:52,960
important point that the audience needs

961
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:56,800
to hear you said jimmy i'm not a pundit

962
00:44:02,470 --> 00:43:58,560
i don't want to come on the show and

963
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:02,480
just free form opinions like you know no

964
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:04,880
that that's not what i do

965
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:06,480
um okay

966
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:09,839
so don't be a pundit right now

967
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,960
i mean i may get that out of you later

968
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:14,400
but um

969
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,240
what would you now that we have the

970
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:18,480
hearing behind this literally right a

971
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:20,079
week ago today

972
00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:20,880
um

973
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:22,400
what would you have done

974
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:23,520
different

975
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:25,280
uh with the hearing

976
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:26,720
um

977
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,760
well i'm

978
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:29,359
where are you putting me in this process

979
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:31,040
are you saying just as myself what would

980
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:33,119
i have done differently in hindsight or

981
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:34,560
what would i have done if i had the keys

982
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:37,040
to to run the show what did you tell

983
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:39,040
yourself that you would have done

984
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:40,800
different because i know you said

985
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:44,870
i don't remember what that was so you're

986
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:46,160
gonna have to call me on the carpet on

987
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:47,280
this one

988
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:50,160
go ahead man how bad was it um yeah

989
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:51,280
exactly

990
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:52,640
um

991
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:55,680
because i think that there was a lot of

992
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:58,560
expectations uh not only

993
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:01,119
uh from the community but also from the

994
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:02,160
hill

995
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:03,119
um

996
00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:06,079
uh the media uh that was uh putting a

997
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:08,720
lot of attention on this there was a

998
00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:10,640
certain amount of expectation from

999
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:13,200
everybody everybody's got a different

1000
00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:14,720
expectation

1001
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:20,800
the planning of the

1002
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:22,480
uh hearing

1003
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,040
uh before may 17th and then the the

1004
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:27,440
hearing takes place of course it's gonna

1005
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:29,280
it's gonna organically do what it's

1006
00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:30,640
going to do

1007
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:34,720
um did it go as as expected

1008
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:37,040
you know it's funny because and i'm

1009
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:38,240
going to try real hard not to be a

1010
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:39,760
pundit but that the way you ask that's

1011
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:42,560
kind of hard um i think it did go as

1012
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:45,040
expected but again that defend excuse me

1013
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:47,920
depends on perception um for me it went

1014
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:51,280
as expected because i i think i was

1015
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:52,720
looking at a very realistic and

1016
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,400
pragmatic understanding of what was

1017
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,640
going on the uaptf was two guys in a

1018
00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:58,400
room who were not picked because they

1019
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:00,880
were ufo experts by any way shape or

1020
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:02,960
form and they were put into a room and

1021
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:04,720
then they started making phone calls and

1022
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:06,480
sending emails and you know and going to

1023
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:08,800
lunch or doing whatever it takes to to

1024
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:10,960
carry out their tasking and their

1025
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:13,440
tasking was to collect data and really

1026
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:16,400
to give congress a picture of what what

1027
00:46:18,550 --> 00:46:17,119
is

1028
00:46:20,950 --> 00:46:18,560
has and

1029
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:20,960
is going on you know past present and

1030
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,480
possible future

1031
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,480
but you people got to understand they

1032
00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:26,319
they think that suddenly these guys were

1033
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:27,520
going to be running around with this

1034
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,400
huge task force like a like like a you

1035
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,079
know the capone movie where they went

1036
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,319
and got him you know kicking indoors and

1037
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:36,400
taking files away and stuff like that

1038
00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:38,319
but no it was phone it was phone calls

1039
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:40,400
it was emails it was lunches

1040
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:42,640
you know and it was just those two guys

1041
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:44,079
so

1042
00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:46,079
i i understood and a lot of other people

1043
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:48,079
that i work with understood and that we

1044
00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:49,680
had to manage our expectations these

1045
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:51,280
guys were not going to be uncovering any

1046
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:53,200
great mysteries in front of you know in

1047
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:55,200
front of congress on those days

1048
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,359
but i have to say we got real lucky

1049
00:47:01,990 --> 00:46:59,520
because some of the congressmen and

1050
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:02,000
representatives are very

1051
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:03,599
some of them were very well educated on

1052
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,599
the subject some of them did their

1053
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:07,119
regular congressional due diligence

1054
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:09,359
we've seen a thousand times on c-span

1055
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:10,480
and you know they're just waiting to get

1056
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:12,319
the next thing on the docket but

1057
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:13,760
representative or congressman tim

1058
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:15,839
burchette representative mike gallagher

1059
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:17,599
they they got to the bare bones of some

1060
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:19,040
of this stuff and we saw the wilson

1061
00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:21,839
document admitted into evidence now if

1062
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:23,760
if i had come on your show a year ago

1063
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:25,359
and i'm not saying i'm not taking credit

1064
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:27,440
for this i'm not saying that we did that

1065
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:29,119
i'm saying the culture that we are a

1066
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:30,240
part of

1067
00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:32,000
in engendering

1068
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:34,319
did that got them educated to the to

1069
00:47:39,589 --> 00:47:36,640
some of these folks to the right spot

1070
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:39,599
but if i told you a year ago hey man

1071
00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:41,200
we're going to get the wilson document

1072
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:42,640
and entered into

1073
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,640
the public record and investigated you

1074
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:46,880
would have told me i was out of my mind

1075
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:48,079
you know and there's other people that

1076
00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:50,880
had staked portions of their ufology

1077
00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:54,079
career on on tearing that down and other

1078
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:56,480
people who had stood up to to stand

1079
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,680
behind it and hopefully we're all going

1080
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:59,599
to find out how the whole thing shakes

1081
00:48:01,589 --> 00:48:00,720
out

1082
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:01,599
but

1083
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:02,800
none of us would have believed that was

1084
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:04,880
going to be a part of it so

1085
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:07,040
for the his for the historical value of

1086
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:07,680
it

1087
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:11,520
went

1088
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:14,400
for the overall impression that it gave

1089
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:16,079
folks who've been working in this field

1090
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:18,640
for a long time i'm not happy with it i

1091
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:21,119
i don't feel like they got

1092
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:23,280
the payoff

1093
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:24,079
that

1094
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:28,480
but the in general all of us have

1095
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:30,079
whispered about you know the stuff that

1096
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:32,319
i won't say on the call you know or you

1097
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:34,079
know or on the air the stuff that i'm

1098
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,680
whispering with my friends man i hope

1099
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:37,440
they do this i hope they ask him that or

1100
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:39,200
that kind of thing

1101
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,640
we all suffered a certain amount of

1102
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:42,240
disappointment but

1103
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,960
we made some serious ground

1104
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:47,040
got some very serious questions asked

1105
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:49,040
some very

1106
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,240
very um blunt and courageous answers on

1107
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:54,079
the floor afterward

1108
00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:56,160
you know going basically i think it was

1109
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:58,000
uh tim burchette who said

1110
00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:00,160
you know knock this nonsense off this is

1111
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,400
bs get the pilots in here i've seen the

1112
00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:04,640
videos let's get down to it

1113
00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:05,599
and

1114
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:07,280
that's something i i haven't wanted to

1115
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,040
you know to yell and to stomp and

1116
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:11,280
everything else because

1117
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:12,800
you don't want to you don't want to

1118
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:14,640
scare the people willing to work on this

1119
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:16,800
right now you know i mean you don't want

1120
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:18,000
to get too

1121
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:19,680
aggressive about some of the stuff that

1122
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:21,599
we've all read 10 books about and you

1123
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:23,359
know and we're pretty sure certain

1124
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,880
things happen this way and if you just

1125
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,480
let me get the elevator speech out

1126
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:28,160
congressman i just know you'd agree with

1127
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:31,119
me you know but with this isn't an

1128
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:33,760
elevator speech this is this is a slow

1129
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:36,960
climb up to something again we just got

1130
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:38,160
it's real

1131
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,000
and right now we've

1132
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:42,720
we did we've veered off into

1133
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:44,800
and i don't know why certain aspects

1134
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:47,119
want to own this and call it drones

1135
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:48,720
they won't even step up to the plate to

1136
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:51,119
them there's they they keep grabbing do

1137
00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:52,800
what i call detail hopping where they

1138
00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:54,800
grab a detail that fits their bias they

1139
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:57,520
run with it create content completely

1140
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,880
forget about it or never held

1141
00:50:01,589 --> 00:50:00,640
accountable for it when it's completely

1142
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:01,599
wrong

1143
00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:02,880
because they just go well i'm just

1144
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:05,760
asking questions here you know and

1145
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:07,920
i i don't respect that i don't respect

1146
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:09,520
the way of doing it it's not additive it

1147
00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:11,200
doesn't build anything i'm

1148
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:12,880
i'm a former investigator i'm all for

1149
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:14,559
weeding out the bs and finding the

1150
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:16,400
details that don't that seemingly don't

1151
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:17,839
fit in something

1152
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:19,760
but at the same time it's like

1153
00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:21,839
what result do you want because it looks

1154
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:24,319
like you want failure

1155
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:26,000
that that's that's all i'm seeing from a

1156
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:28,240
certain cadre is how do we make this

1157
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,119
fail

1158
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:31,599
how do we discredit it how do we knock

1159
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:34,000
it down and we're even seeing and i hate

1160
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:35,280
i hate to bring this up because i think

1161
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:36,720
it's kind of catty because this is the

1162
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:38,160
small potatoes

1163
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:40,240
but there's people out there paying 19

1164
00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:42,880
cents a comment to write negative

1165
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:45,599
comments about people that i work with

1166
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,319
there's there's camps forming up

1167
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:50,160
that are that are going to just foia the

1168
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:52,559
pants off of everything about this and

1169
00:50:57,670 --> 00:50:55,280
they're just hunting for details that

1170
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:57,680
make them feel good

1171
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,000
about something and i i don't understand

1172
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:02,480
why we're not all instead writing our

1173
00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:05,280
congressman and giving them questions

1174
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:06,839
instead we're not put and don't get me

1175
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:09,839
wrong there's nonsense in this

1176
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:11,680
there there is there's we're trying to

1177
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:14,000
uncover 70 years worth of what the hell

1178
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:16,000
was going on who was in charge and

1179
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:19,119
where's the stuff and what do we know

1180
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,000
but

1181
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:22,480
how how just sniping at people trolling

1182
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,599
and all and i'm not even talking about

1183
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:25,200
trolling i'm not talking about comments

1184
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,640
and crap like that i can weather that

1185
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:28,880
all day sticks and stones man yeah who

1186
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:29,920
cares

1187
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:33,200
yeah i don't care but it's the

1188
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:35,200
it's it's there's a lot of two-facedness

1189
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:37,440
going on right now

1190
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:39,119
you know about yell and team and let's

1191
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,800
all move forward

1192
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,559
but sniping people and i don't

1193
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:44,160
understand it i think people need to

1194
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:45,760
stop sniping each other all over the

1195
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,839
place we don't need another hit piece on

1196
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:48,960
anybody

1197
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:51,520
whether i whether i like them or not

1198
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:52,880
you know what i mean we need everybody

1199
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:55,599
to be paying attention to the show

1200
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:57,680
what's really going on on the hill

1201
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:58,720
together

1202
00:52:02,549 --> 00:52:00,640
and not what's not this

1203
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:02,559
confirmation bias war that we're

1204
00:52:08,069 --> 00:52:04,800
constantly fighting you know what's

1205
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:08,079
interesting about that uh those

1206
00:52:13,510 --> 00:52:10,800
that choose to

1207
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:13,520
uh pursue the negative for clicks and

1208
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:15,839
money and for their own

1209
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:19,680
uh uh motivations have probably been in

1210
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:22,400
the ufo game for about two years

1211
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:24,800
they don't know anything about it they

1212
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:26,800
don't know anything about history they

1213
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:30,000
don't know anything at all

1214
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:32,960
they just know what they've been like i

1215
00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:33,760
said

1216
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:37,359
confirmation bias right

1217
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:39,040
and and so

1218
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:41,200
that's where they're coming from and and

1219
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:42,480
i know this

1220
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:44,640
there are some um i'm not going to name

1221
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:47,040
names and and neither are you

1222
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:49,040
but there are uh

1223
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:52,800
some pretty popular writers out there

1224
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:54,319
that uh

1225
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:00,349
since december

1226
00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:03,440
2017 there i see

1227
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:05,280
they didn't they didn't

1228
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:08,720
read any any books or or know any names

1229
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:11,440
or anything prior to that no it got on

1230
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:12,960
the radar then

1231
00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:16,400
you cannot um and i'll say this sean you

1232
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:17,440
cannot

1233
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:21,280
uh get into the ufo world overnight

1234
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:25,119
i've been at it for 50 years 50. you

1235
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:28,079
can't do 50 years of research into in in

1236
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:30,400
two months and and suddenly have an

1237
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:32,319
opinion that's valid

1238
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:33,040
right

1239
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:35,119
no no it doesn't work that way that's

1240
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:36,000
why

1241
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:38,960
uh i agree with you that that has to

1242
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:40,240
stop they're doing it for their own

1243
00:53:44,309 --> 00:53:41,920
selfish reasons they're not doing this

1244
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:44,319
to move the ball down the field

1245
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:45,520
yeah

1246
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:51,040
in the works right now in the private

1247
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:52,880
sector and in the public sector right

1248
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:55,200
now that i'm i'm highly confident

1249
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:57,359
that those voices aren't gonna

1250
00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:58,720
aren't gonna hold much sway in the

1251
00:54:02,710 --> 00:54:01,119
future because the reality i mean or

1252
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:02,720
they're gonna be yelling at the ocean as

1253
00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:04,480
i say you know standing at the beach

1254
00:54:08,710 --> 00:54:06,319
screaming at the sea why do you why do

1255
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:08,720
the waves keep crashing right um right

1256
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:10,720
right so i'm not too worried about it

1257
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:11,839
but

1258
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:15,200
it takes us away from from from i think

1259
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:17,680
making even more solid progress you know

1260
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:18,880
what i mean because like like you and i

1261
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:20,240
like we talked about the last time when

1262
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:21,280
we you know when we talked before the

1263
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:23,440
show we we didn't have perfect opinions

1264
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:25,839
of each other we hadn't met yet

1265
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:27,680
you know what i mean but once you get a

1266
00:54:32,390 --> 00:54:30,640
chance to humanize each other and and

1267
00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:32,400
and see who you are and see what you're

1268
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:33,440
about

1269
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:35,520
the differences fall fall to the wayside

1270
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:37,680
i think and i think we can apply a heck

1271
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:39,280
of a lot more to that to the subject to

1272
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:40,640
our culture and everything else but i'll

1273
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:42,720
get off my soapbox yeah no but

1274
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:43,680
about that

1275
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:48,000
uh i'm going to get back to tim

1276
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:51,040
burchette uh he's my new hero by the way

1277
00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:53,599
uh him and representative welch welch

1278
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:56,319
just came out of nowhere too um but

1279
00:55:02,069 --> 00:54:57,200
after

1280
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:02,079
the show a couple of months ago

1281
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:04,880
sean and i stayed up till midnight

1282
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:07,359
we stayed up for another two hours

1283
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:09,359
until his his wife came in and said okay

1284
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:11,520
enough's enough kids

1285
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:14,000
uh uh but uh but we talked for another

1286
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:17,359
two hours uh about everything except for

1287
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:21,599
uh ufos and uh

1288
00:55:26,950 --> 00:55:23,920
we talked about everything else now uh

1289
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:26,960
back to timber chat timber chat uh post

1290
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,799
conference uh

1291
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:30,720
a post hearing i should say

1292
00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:34,559
um let something slip that well it was

1293
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:36,799
intentional but he definitely he let it

1294
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:39,119
slip he said this

1295
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:40,480
he said

1296
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:44,319
the the the cover-up by our government

1297
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,079
has to end

1298
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:48,720
the people need to know the truth now

1299
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:51,440
that's that i'm not i'm not paraphrasing

1300
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:54,319
that's exactly what he said

1301
00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:56,960
the government our government's cover-up

1302
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:58,480
on this has to end that people need to

1303
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:00,000
know the truth

1304
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:03,280
that is an extraordinary statement and

1305
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:06,000
it didn't even happen during the hearing

1306
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:06,880
yeah

1307
00:56:12,789 --> 00:56:10,160
no it's uh it was very bold

1308
00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:12,799
um in most cases i am an apologist for

1309
00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:14,319
the word government where i tell people

1310
00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:16,160
it's you know there is no big g

1311
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:17,599
government to point that and all this

1312
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:19,440
but in this case it's the correct word

1313
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:20,480
to use

1314
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:23,440
because we're talking about um

1315
00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:24,880
accountability

1316
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,880
you know and and everybody in that room

1317
00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:28,480
well not everybody in that room at the

1318
00:56:32,069 --> 00:56:29,760
hearing but a lot of people in that

1319
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:32,079
realm room know that this isn't just

1320
00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:34,240
this doesn't just extend

1321
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:37,359
out to the the purview of the ua ptf

1322
00:56:41,829 --> 00:56:39,680
and the the members of the ua ptf know

1323
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:41,839
from acknowledging blue book blue book

1324
00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:43,760
is now you know once again in the public

1325
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:45,920
eye and on the record that that occurred

1326
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:46,880
um

1327
00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:48,319
they understand that there's more to

1328
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:50,079
this it's not just the last couple years

1329
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:53,280
it's not just tic tac in gimbal um

1330
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:57,440
it's it's it's 70 years plus worth of

1331
00:57:02,309 --> 00:56:59,760
very relevant information

1332
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:05,030
where do we how do we get from

1333
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:07,520
from this spot right now where where

1334
00:57:11,910 --> 00:57:10,079
it's a it's it's flashed a lot of people

1335
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:11,920
are interested and we do have momentum

1336
00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:13,839
we you know we have scheduled things it

1337
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:15,119
wasn't just like we had the hearing this

1338
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:17,040
is all going away right the hearing the

1339
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,480
hearing was new

1340
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:20,240
the hearing was like a cookie given to

1341
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:21,760
all of us in the middle of something

1342
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:23,119
that we all thought was going to be

1343
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:25,119
relatively unknown where we were going

1344
00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:27,200
to get piecemealed out information and

1345
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,559
things like that

1346
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:31,280
this has become pretty real really quick

1347
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:34,559
and the amount of information

1348
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:36,880
that was requested after that hearing

1349
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,319
let me put it that way

1350
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:40,720
from the the staffers the folks in and

1351
00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:42,799
around the hill the people that are the

1352
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:44,640
uh the journalists the people that are

1353
00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:47,599
that are on the sidelines of this

1354
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:50,480
the amount of requests for education

1355
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:53,280
material for for relevant timelines

1356
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:56,400
trustworthy you know data and who what's

1357
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:58,880
a good book to read frankly you know and

1358
00:58:01,829 --> 00:58:01,040
and that kind of thing they came pouring

1359
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:01,839
in

1360
00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:05,280
while i agree with you can't become you

1361
00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:07,760
know ufo personalities that are going to

1362
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:09,520
going to take the world by storm

1363
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:10,640
overnight

1364
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:12,480
these people are trying to become ufo

1365
00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:14,720
experts and what they do for a living is

1366
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:16,160
become experts in

1367
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:17,119
a

1368
00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:28,000
interesting

1369
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:31,520
the uh the other part to this uh

1370
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:33,200
i've got two minutes before the break

1371
00:58:38,470 --> 00:58:35,599
and of course uh we'll pick up when we

1372
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:38,480
come back and race is gonna join us

1373
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:40,559
um is that

1374
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:43,280
we nobody should be happy

1375
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:46,319
right not andre carson not not sean

1376
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:49,040
cahill we're not done not not chris

1377
00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:51,760
mellon right you can't you can't just

1378
00:58:54,789 --> 00:58:53,520
back off of this and go well okay cool

1379
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:54,799
that was great

1380
00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:57,200
because then there is a second hearing

1381
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:00,400
right that has to be the attitude not

1382
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:03,119
only amongst yourselves and washington

1383
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:05,280
but the entire community we appreciate

1384
00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:08,079
it happening but we need more this is

1385
00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:10,079
just a start that's the attitude we

1386
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:12,640
should have right oh i totally agree

1387
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:14,319
taking this now and just calling it a

1388
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:16,640
win and going home is like accepting a

1389
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:18,480
pizza for 10 hours of overtime and

1390
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:20,400
sucking it up

1391
00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:22,240
no pay me man

1392
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:24,720
right come come back with the answers

1393
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:28,000
time and a half by the way oh man

1394
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:29,599
shot's going to be here all week hit the

1395
00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:31,440
waitress

1396
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:33,359
try the veal uh this is going to be a

1397
00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:35,040
great conversation tonight i know that

1398
00:59:38,549 --> 00:59:36,799
you've got a very busy week in front of

1399
00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:38,559
you sean we appreciate all of your

1400
00:59:44,950 --> 00:59:40,720
efforts and of course uh for you taking

1401
00:59:48,390 --> 00:59:44,960
the time tonight um uh we know that uh i

1402
00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:48,400
announced earlier that lou is is flying

1403
00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:51,440
he he sends his best wishes you know to

1404
00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:53,040
us in the audience

1405
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:55,280
um but he's out there getting it done

1406
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:58,079
isn't he yes he is he's he's not here

1407
01:00:02,470 --> 00:59:59,200
because he's doing what you hope he's

1408
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:02,480
doing ah man i want to be lou

1409
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let's take our break right here our

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guest tonight sean cahill when we come

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01:00:12,069 --> 01:00:10,960
back we will be joined by the general

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01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:12,079
manager

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of kunx race hobbs i'm your host jimmy

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01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:17,920
church stay with us we will be right

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back after this short break this is fade

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uh

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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damn it

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jimmy church and fade to black on the

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listen i know and you know that you've

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or maybe you're a collector just like me

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but you just don't know where to go to

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find the real thing

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hi this is race hops here repping the

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01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:10,880
friend jimmy church fade to black

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hey i'm adrian grenier and i'm ari gold

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and you're listening to jimmy church the

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01:03:52,789 --> 01:03:50,480
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01:04:01,589 --> 01:03:59,920
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01:04:05,140 --> 01:04:01,599
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01:04:20,010 --> 01:04:05,150
church on fade to black

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01:04:26,710 --> 01:04:23,750
[Music]

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01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:26,720
welcome back i am your host jimmy church

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01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:31,109
night two

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it's it's the cream in my coffee folks i

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01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:38,829
should be drinking the

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01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:42,240
black tonight is night two of our ufo

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01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:44,559
hearing week here on uh fade to black

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01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:47,440
and uh our guest tonight is sean cahill

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01:04:50,309 --> 01:04:48,960
and uh

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01:04:52,870 --> 01:04:50,319
the uh

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01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:52,880
the thing is sean um

1505
01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:54,960
is that i wish

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01:05:00,230 --> 01:04:58,720
everybody could see our private chat uh

1507
01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:00,240
because

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01:05:09,029 --> 01:05:05,839
man it's real it's it's not quite there

1509
01:05:12,069 --> 01:05:09,039
but it's it's getting there um but but

1510
01:05:15,109 --> 01:05:12,079
this is an extraordinary uh week

1511
01:05:16,390 --> 01:05:15,119
and i felt that uh i'm gonna bring in

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01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:16,400
race

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01:05:18,870 --> 01:05:17,920
i felt that

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01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:18,880
uh

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01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:21,119
immediately after the hearing

1516
01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:23,200
i told myself

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01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:25,440
the hearing is over

1518
01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:28,319
the real story starts now

1519
01:05:32,470 --> 01:05:30,480
we need to unpack this we need to take a

1520
01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:32,480
look at it there is going to be some

1521
01:05:37,589 --> 01:05:34,319
considerations

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01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:37,599
not only from washington dc but which

1523
01:05:41,829 --> 01:05:39,760
includes everything that's the agencies

1524
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:41,839
and the department of defense and of

1525
01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:44,720
course congress and the senate um all of

1526
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:46,400
these things are going to come into play

1527
01:05:51,829 --> 01:05:47,920
but there are discussions that are going

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01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:51,839
to happen after this and in in many ways

1529
01:05:57,190 --> 01:05:54,720
i feel that this week was probably

1530
01:05:59,430 --> 01:05:57,200
more exciting than last tuesday how do

1531
01:06:01,589 --> 01:05:59,440
you feel about that

1532
01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:01,599
to an extent i i would i would say that

1533
01:06:07,270 --> 01:06:04,640
this week was probably more exciting

1534
01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:07,280
in in the in the staff rooms board rooms

1535
01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:09,760
and on the zooms for sure

1536
01:06:14,789 --> 01:06:12,960
there was a buzz going around

1537
01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:14,799
a lot of people frankly i heard this

1538
01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:16,480
from more than a few people they felt

1539
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:17,760
like this must have been what it was

1540
01:06:20,710 --> 01:06:19,760
like during the moon landing

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01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:20,720
except

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01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:22,480
not the whole world was watching this

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01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:23,920
time just just

1544
01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:26,559
you know a lot more people than usual

1545
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:28,880
but in to a great extent just the people

1546
01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:31,119
who would have been interested otherwise

1547
01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:34,480
but that has just exploded exponentially

1548
01:06:45,190 --> 01:06:40,390
can you do me a favor and

1549
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:45,200
very briefly um explain your position in

1550
01:06:49,109 --> 01:06:46,960
in all of this

1551
01:06:52,230 --> 01:06:49,119
significant or insignificant what is it

1552
01:06:54,309 --> 01:06:52,240
that you do today in retirement

1553
01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:54,319
well you know a lot of people who have

1554
01:06:58,470 --> 01:06:56,319
heard about of our company skyford had a

1555
01:07:01,349 --> 01:06:58,480
lot of questions about it and

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01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:01,359
um we over the over the period of us

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01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:03,440
about a year having that open

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01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:04,480
um

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01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:06,720
we did a lot of work now what but what

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01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:07,839
we did

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01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:11,680
this stuff it wasn't contracted we

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01:07:15,589 --> 01:07:13,599
weren't accepting donations or anything

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01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:15,599
like that it was three guys who were

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01:07:19,109 --> 01:07:17,440
making phone calls sending emails and

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01:07:20,309 --> 01:07:19,119
sitting in on zooms

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01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:20,319
but

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01:07:23,589 --> 01:07:22,240
you know that um

1568
01:07:25,349 --> 01:07:23,599
you know that story about the kid who

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01:07:27,109 --> 01:07:25,359
has the paper clip and he traded up to a

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01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:27,119
house yes

1571
01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:29,520
it was kind of like that but just with

1572
01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:30,640
honesty

1573
01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:33,200
and not trying to extend yourself beyond

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01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:34,640
where you should be at the right time

1575
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:36,160
like like i've told you when we talk

1576
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:38,160
offline not hitting people with that

1577
01:07:41,750 --> 01:07:39,760
elevator speech

1578
01:07:44,069 --> 01:07:41,760
not given that manic

1579
01:07:45,670 --> 01:07:44,079
you know presentation of trying to

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convince them in a short amount of time

1581
01:07:49,029 --> 01:07:47,599
this thing that you know in your heart

1582
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:49,039
you got to start at ground level and

1583
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:50,880
start educating people just like you

1584
01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:53,520
said none of us became ufo experts

1585
01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:55,760
whatever that means overnight you know

1586
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:56,880
what i mean i started reading these

1587
01:08:00,630 --> 01:07:58,880
books when i was when i was seven you

1588
01:08:02,789 --> 01:08:00,640
know the first one i had was

1589
01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:02,799
crappy pictures of the loch ness monster

1590
01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:04,000
and you know

1591
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:05,680
that we all know the same book it was in

1592
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:08,720
the library for our generation yes

1593
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:10,480
it's the same you know and that was and

1594
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:12,000
in search of with leonard nimoy and all

1595
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:13,680
that stuff so we started somewhere and

1596
01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:15,760
then it extended over this this lifetime

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01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:18,640
i mean i'm about to turn 49 next week

1598
01:08:22,149 --> 01:08:20,560
and by the way shout out to dave scott

1599
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:22,159
happy birthday to him today all right

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01:08:27,590 --> 01:08:23,520
dave scott

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01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:27,600
is 96 years old most people don't know

1602
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:28,400
that

1603
01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:30,880
um and he looks a pretty good happy

1604
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,440
birthday dave wow i didn't know that but

1605
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:35,040
we took we took our whole lives to learn

1606
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:36,799
about this stuff so this week like i

1607
01:08:40,070 --> 01:08:38,480
said you know as the staffers are doing

1608
01:08:42,229 --> 01:08:40,080
there's a lot of people in the public

1609
01:08:45,189 --> 01:08:42,239
that are just going where do i turn to

1610
01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:45,199
what do i read where do i go first so

1611
01:08:48,789 --> 01:08:47,120
it was kind of like what's happening

1612
01:08:50,950 --> 01:08:48,799
right now for all the people we were

1613
01:08:51,749 --> 01:08:50,960
doing it on a smaller scale

1614
01:08:55,829 --> 01:08:51,759
so

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01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:55,839
name is sean cahill i was you know as a

1616
01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:57,359
witness at this event you may have seen

1617
01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:59,040
these things in recent news i'd love to

1618
01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:01,199
talk to you about these things and and

1619
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,480
if possible

1620
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,560
you know introduce you to luella zondo

1621
01:09:08,870 --> 01:09:06,799
have a conversation and a lot of that

1622
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:08,880
would just lead to a zoom and we would

1623
01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:10,799
see if we had areas where we could help

1624
01:09:14,309 --> 01:09:12,080
each other out

1625
01:09:15,669 --> 01:09:14,319
you know and the thing was at the end of

1626
01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:15,679
that year

1627
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:17,279
we did what we wanted to do and we

1628
01:09:21,910 --> 01:09:19,120
didn't want to taint this we didn't

1629
01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:21,920
wanna we really looked at and this is no

1630
01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:23,520
offense to anybody because i always say

1631
01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:24,640
we're standing on the shoulders of

1632
01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:26,319
giants here

1633
01:09:32,229 --> 01:09:28,719
but we looked at everybody who had

1634
01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:32,239
worked their tail off to try to get done

1635
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:34,640
what's happening right now

1636
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:37,279
and we just started boosting shoving

1637
01:09:42,149 --> 01:09:39,520
you know what i mean and and helping

1638
01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:42,159
where where we could see people had

1639
01:09:46,149 --> 01:09:43,759
where somebody had a ship that could

1640
01:09:47,749 --> 01:09:46,159
still sail we helped rig the sales we

1641
01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:47,759
helped we got in there and helped fix

1642
01:09:53,030 --> 01:09:50,080
the tiller and bail the water out out of

1643
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:53,040
the the you know the gunnel

1644
01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:54,880
but at the end of it it was just let's

1645
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:56,719
educate people let's tell them you can

1646
01:10:00,390 --> 01:09:58,320
take this seriously there's there's

1647
01:10:01,110 --> 01:10:00,400
folks who are willing to stand next to

1648
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:01,120
you

1649
01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:05,040
to

1650
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:08,320
what what would help you

1651
01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:10,000
understand this better who do you need

1652
01:10:20,870 --> 01:10:17,990
let me jump in uh for clarification

1653
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:20,880
um when you say you are you referring to

1654
01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:22,800
elected officials representatives

1655
01:10:28,229 --> 01:10:25,280
senators um

1656
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:28,239
in some cases yes in some cases um

1657
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:31,520
staffers in some cases um military

1658
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:34,560
military leaders reaching out um offline

1659
01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:38,080
off duty right um trying to learn more

1660
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:39,679
these things a lot of people assume that

1661
01:10:44,229 --> 01:10:41,679
you know these all these official things

1662
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:44,239
are happening no this was human beings

1663
01:10:48,550 --> 01:10:46,560
socializing a concept

1664
01:10:50,390 --> 01:10:48,560
but people that were in positions where

1665
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:50,400
once that concept was understood to have

1666
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:53,040
validity they were able to take action

1667
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:54,880
or they were able to facilitate other

1668
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:57,360
people taking action or moving the ball

1669
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:59,040
so to speak

1670
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:00,960
how um

1671
01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:04,000
race hobbes is with us sean um

1672
01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:06,800
and looking at the two of you here i

1673
01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:08,080
will say this

1674
01:11:12,709 --> 01:11:10,400
i think we need some dna testing i think

1675
01:11:16,709 --> 01:11:12,719
somebody was separated at birth but

1676
01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:16,719
oh don't do don't do sean like that

1677
01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:18,880
by the way it's nice to see you beat you

1678
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:20,800
for the first time that's uh it's a

1679
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:22,640
pleasure and thank you for your service

1680
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:23,920
to our country

1681
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:29,750
yeah

1682
01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:32,960
we we all we are all thankful um sean

1683
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:35,040
with um i'm gonna move me over here i

1684
01:11:41,189 --> 01:11:37,679
want sean out of the logo i'll put the

1685
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:41,199
logo on my shiny head um

1686
01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:43,280
here's the other part though

1687
01:11:46,149 --> 01:11:44,320
um

1688
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:46,159
when

1689
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:47,040
the

1690
01:11:54,950 --> 01:11:53,520
for having hearings did that come from

1691
01:11:58,310 --> 01:11:54,960
capitol hill

1692
01:12:02,070 --> 01:11:58,320
did that come from the uap task force

1693
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:02,080
did that come from outside was it uh

1694
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:05,280
yourself and chris mellon and lou

1695
01:12:09,189 --> 01:12:06,960
or did everybody

1696
01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:09,199
maybe have the same idea at the same

1697
01:12:12,550 --> 01:12:10,719
time

1698
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:12,560
if there's an origin in a specific

1699
01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:15,360
person i i don't know who it is but i

1700
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:17,199
think that was kind of like the thing on

1701
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:18,960
everybody's lips like we're going to the

1702
01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:20,560
beach on saturday and we know it we

1703
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:22,239
don't have to talk about it right you

1704
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:24,560
know the idea is

1705
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:26,640
the fastest route to

1706
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:28,480
telling the people or showing the people

1707
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:30,080
is just to do the thing in front of the

1708
01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:31,199
people

1709
01:12:35,910 --> 01:12:33,520
you know in real time and let them let

1710
01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:35,920
them figure it out as we're figuring it

1711
01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:37,760
out as the people on the you know on the

1712
01:12:40,229 --> 01:12:39,520
hill are figuring out

1713
01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:40,239
so

1714
01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:45,040
but to me that was what we all wanted

1715
01:12:47,990 --> 01:12:46,960
and just like right now we'd all love to

1716
01:12:54,070 --> 01:12:48,000
see

1717
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:54,080
fravor and you know commander dietrich

1718
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:55,600
testify

1719
01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:56,880
so

1720
01:13:01,750 --> 01:12:58,800
i think it was unspoken

1721
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:01,760
but but um that was that was a major win

1722
01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:03,600
the fact that to me the fact that that

1723
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:05,360
came out of nowhere let's have a public

1724
01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:07,199
hearing right now

1725
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:09,360
because that that sent a message that

1726
01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:11,840
said look while while this isn't the

1727
01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:14,400
absolute

1728
01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:16,320
pie in the sky disclosure so many people

1729
01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:17,679
want it all wrapped up in one quick

1730
01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:18,800
package

1731
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:21,040
um we just showed you we just did it in

1732
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:22,480
front of you and it's not piecemeal

1733
01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:24,560
we're calling for more it was it wasn't

1734
01:13:34,229 --> 01:13:25,199
a

1735
01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:34,239
you know never trust the government it's

1736
01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:36,880
a dog and pony show okay great that's so

1737
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:39,199
much progress we made with that you know

1738
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:41,440
we got it we're getting there we have

1739
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:42,640
more coming

1740
01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:43,440
so

1741
01:13:47,110 --> 01:13:44,960
i'm really not listening to the

1742
01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:47,120
naysayers anymore i've really tuned them

1743
01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:47,840
out

1744
01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:48,800
um

1745
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:51,040
you have to i mean i i don't like

1746
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:52,400
blinders

1747
01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:55,120
but there are sometimes uh when you need

1748
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:04,070
but sometimes i i put them on myself

1749
01:14:09,669 --> 01:14:07,120
race uh you've been investigating uh

1750
01:14:12,070 --> 01:14:09,679
ufos you've been part of the media

1751
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:12,080
uh for a couple of decades now dealing

1752
01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:14,560
with this subject last tuesday was a

1753
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:17,760
pretty big day uh by anybody's measure

1754
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:18,560
uh

1755
01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:20,400
which what's your take now how do you

1756
01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:26,950
i love sean's optimistic view

1757
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,910
i think that that

1758
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:36,470
boss ass meffers like him need to keep

1759
01:14:39,270 --> 01:14:38,000
their boot on the throat of the

1760
01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:39,280
government

1761
01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:41,679
because people like me

1762
01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:44,239
have given up on it

1763
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:47,040
someone like me um

1764
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:49,600
when i say i've been in it 30 years it's

1765
01:14:55,590 --> 01:14:53,360
not i wasn't reading uh you know

1766
01:14:58,390 --> 01:14:55,600
scooby-doo books and watching watching

1767
01:15:00,470 --> 01:14:58,400
them chase monsters and [\h__\h] and and you

1768
01:15:01,990 --> 01:15:00,480
know that was the that was the beginning

1769
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:02,000
of my days

1770
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:04,560
when i say i was in it 30 years ago i

1771
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:05,760
was

1772
01:15:16,709 --> 01:15:14,080
writing letters and reading books and

1773
01:15:19,669 --> 01:15:16,719
running down leads and investigating

1774
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:19,679
cases and researching history

1775
01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:22,080
and compiling

1776
01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:25,199
you know file cabinets full of notes and

1777
01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:26,080
and

1778
01:15:36,149 --> 01:15:33,120
just everything you could do

1779
01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:38,950
and interviewing military in interme

1780
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:41,040
interviewing and writing to government

1781
01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:43,679
officials to astronauts

1782
01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:46,080
you name it

1783
01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:48,239
i know the military-industrial complex

1784
01:15:52,709 --> 01:15:49,920
is never

1785
01:15:54,070 --> 01:15:52,719
just get used to this right here because

1786
01:15:55,030 --> 01:15:54,080
i'm only going to be on this earth so

1787
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:55,040
long

1788
01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:56,719
and you can take it to the bank while

1789
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:59,280
i'm still here and if i'm wrong hold me

1790
01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:00,400
to it

1791
01:16:04,630 --> 01:16:02,320
but they are never going to turn loose

1792
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:04,640
of anything

1793
01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:09,040
means and methods they're not gonna do

1794
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:09,760
it

1795
01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:11,760
because what they're in the business of

1796
01:16:16,630 --> 01:16:14,239
is keeping us all safe

1797
01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:16,640
and if it means that they have to have

1798
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:18,640
an edge they're gonna do whatever it

1799
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:21,040
takes to get that edge and i'm all for

1800
01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:21,920
it

1801
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:29,510
we came really close in world war ii

1802
01:16:33,830 --> 01:16:31,440
and those guys

1803
01:16:35,910 --> 01:16:33,840
that were in the know the manhattan

1804
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:35,920
projects and all the other things that

1805
01:16:39,189 --> 01:16:38,000
went on that we still probably don't

1806
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:39,199
know about

1807
01:16:43,990 --> 01:16:40,960
um

1808
01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:44,000
you know they they had the edge and and

1809
01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:47,040
somehow they pulled it off in time

1810
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:49,840
to where the free world came out on top

1811
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:51,280
and

1812
01:16:57,030 --> 01:16:54,000
i'm sure they all made packs that they

1813
01:16:58,149 --> 01:16:57,040
were never gonna let that happen again

1814
01:16:59,910 --> 01:16:58,159
and

1815
01:17:04,310 --> 01:16:59,920
i hope

1816
01:17:06,149 --> 01:17:04,320
that you know when when presidents have

1817
01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:06,159
been told that they don't have a need to

1818
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:06,960
know

1819
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:09,520
when when the highest elected

1820
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:10,719
chair

1821
01:17:17,110 --> 01:17:13,280
in public office

1822
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:17,120
is not able to be read in

1823
01:17:22,229 --> 01:17:19,600
if that's true

1824
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:22,239
then it's going to take

1825
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:24,080
the entire congress

1826
01:17:29,590 --> 01:17:26,480
and the entire senate

1827
01:17:30,790 --> 01:17:29,600
to put that kind of pressure

1828
01:17:39,189 --> 01:17:30,800
on

1829
01:17:40,630 --> 01:17:39,199
you know these guys right here

1830
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:40,640
they weren't looking at a flock of

1831
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:42,480
seagulls

1832
01:17:45,189 --> 01:17:43,520
you know

1833
01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:45,199
they know what they saw they know what

1834
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:47,440
they experienced and there's it's not

1835
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:50,159
just them there's hundreds of them maybe

1836
01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:51,760
thousands

1837
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:53,920
it's not just in a u.s thing it's a

1838
01:17:59,590 --> 01:17:56,000
worldwide thing

1839
01:18:02,790 --> 01:17:59,600
and this hearing for someone like me

1840
01:18:04,709 --> 01:18:02,800
someone in my you know in my place in

1841
01:18:07,350 --> 01:18:04,719
all of this

1842
01:18:10,630 --> 01:18:07,360
i saw it as a joke

1843
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:10,640
that little cell phone video they showed

1844
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:12,480
i don't know who they were showing that

1845
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:13,440
for

1846
01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:15,440
but we know

1847
01:18:20,709 --> 01:18:18,480
they've got way better stuff than that

1848
01:18:22,709 --> 01:18:20,719
way better

1849
01:18:24,310 --> 01:18:22,719
all right let me let me jump in

1850
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:24,320
i just really think that they should

1851
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:25,520
have brought

1852
01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:28,159
right a little more

1853
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:30,080
for those of us that are in the but you

1854
01:18:34,229 --> 01:18:32,159
know you got to start somewhere

1855
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:34,239
you do you do but

1856
01:18:38,830 --> 01:18:36,400
race that's a great point

1857
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:38,840
sean let's talk about that video for a

1858
01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:41,360
second was that

1859
01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:43,840
video a mistake

1860
01:18:47,590 --> 01:18:45,440
to bring forward

1861
01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:47,600
or was it that they weren't prepared

1862
01:18:52,229 --> 01:18:50,320
maybe the video was fine but they didn't

1863
01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:52,239
present it the right way

1864
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:54,080
and the second part so you can answer

1865
01:18:58,070 --> 01:18:56,480
the the first two but the second part is

1866
01:19:01,350 --> 01:18:58,080
have you seen stuff that is more

1867
01:19:02,709 --> 01:19:01,360
compelling than that and would you

1868
01:19:05,189 --> 01:19:02,719
encourage

1869
01:19:08,149 --> 01:19:05,199
uh some of the stuff that you have seen

1870
01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:08,159
to be presented at the next hearing

1871
01:19:11,990 --> 01:19:10,480
let me um let me help you look at it a

1872
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:12,000
little let me help you look at it how i

1873
01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:13,120
do

1874
01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:15,520
okay and where i came from and how it

1875
01:19:19,990 --> 01:19:18,320
how it worked from in my opinion and how

1876
01:19:22,229 --> 01:19:20,000
we got what we got

1877
01:19:24,310 --> 01:19:22,239
when we say they we're back to talking

1878
01:19:27,030 --> 01:19:24,320
about those two dudes who are not ufo

1879
01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:27,040
experts who barely have a water cooler

1880
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:28,080
you know what i mean they don't have a

1881
01:19:31,189 --> 01:19:29,600
budget they don't have a team they're

1882
01:19:33,110 --> 01:19:31,199
not flying all over the place pulling

1883
01:19:35,669 --> 01:19:33,120
files like we said

1884
01:19:37,189 --> 01:19:35,679
they're they're it's it's not a and i

1885
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:37,199
don't mean to disrespect anybody nobody

1886
01:19:40,870 --> 01:19:38,640
in this room for sure but anybody

1887
01:19:42,790 --> 01:19:40,880
listening it's not a movie script you

1888
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:42,800
know i mean it's a way more glacial

1889
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:43,840
process

1890
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:44,880
now

1891
01:19:50,229 --> 01:19:48,480
short fused

1892
01:19:52,149 --> 01:19:50,239
okay everything they were going to be

1893
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:52,159
doing was either on the unclass level

1894
01:19:55,990 --> 01:19:53,920
closed hearing or on the classified

1895
01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:56,000
level closed hearing as far as we know

1896
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:56,800
right

1897
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:58,239
in this case

1898
01:20:02,149 --> 01:20:00,000
we're probably looking at a phone

1899
01:20:03,910 --> 01:20:02,159
ringing on a friday afternoon and going

1900
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:03,920
get everything you got that's unclassed

1901
01:20:07,669 --> 01:20:05,679
that's completely you know that's that's

1902
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:07,679
sanitized and redacted that you can show

1903
01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:09,440
in a public hearing and bring it to the

1904
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:10,800
hill

1905
01:20:14,709 --> 01:20:13,120
okay it wasn't a long term plan for

1906
01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:14,719
something they don't have a file cabinet

1907
01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:16,080
going here's the stuff we'll show if

1908
01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:17,440
they'll ask for this and here's what

1909
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:19,600
we'll ask for this it's not quite like

1910
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:22,000
that so that's how we got there so

1911
01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:24,239
whether or not it was a mistake

1912
01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:25,440
optically

1913
01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:26,159
if

1914
01:20:29,590 --> 01:20:28,080
from my standpoint as someone who wants

1915
01:20:31,189 --> 01:20:29,600
to see this succeed and thinks of this

1916
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:31,199
strategically and wants everything to be

1917
01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:33,120
additive you know i don't want to show a

1918
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:34,960
birthday balloon

1919
01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:36,880
never right i don't want to be caught

1920
01:20:39,110 --> 01:20:38,080
putting in

1921
01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:39,120
a

1922
01:21:01,590 --> 01:20:57,679
did it help

1923
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:01,600
to show a non-compelling video hell no

1924
01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:04,000
and and and let me let me say this i

1925
01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:05,920
i've told you this before

1926
01:21:10,390 --> 01:21:07,920
uh jimmy i i've never seen i've never

1927
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:10,400
been shown any classified material okay

1928
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:12,320
since since i've retired or since i

1929
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:13,600
joined this effort i've never been

1930
01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:15,199
nobody's ever snuck anything around the

1931
01:21:18,390 --> 01:21:16,480
fence to me because i wouldn't play

1932
01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:18,400
anyway i'm not putting my pension in

1933
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:20,239
jeopardy for that stuff

1934
01:21:23,990 --> 01:21:21,760
um

1935
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:24,000
i do have friends though that know when

1936
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:26,639
they see something on youtube

1937
01:21:29,430 --> 01:21:28,080
they're like that's from another angle

1938
01:21:31,510 --> 01:21:29,440
of something we got

1939
01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:31,520
or we've seen that's we've seen this

1940
01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:33,920
exact thing that's a great one to use as

1941
01:21:37,590 --> 01:21:36,080
an example for your reference and things

1942
01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:37,600
like that right so i've had

1943
01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:40,480
conversations similar to that so

1944
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:42,719
when i say i know these things exist yes

1945
01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:45,040
it's hearsay okay

1946
01:21:47,910 --> 01:21:45,920
but

1947
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:47,920
the the people that are that i've had

1948
01:21:52,629 --> 01:21:49,440
discussions with that are like you don't

1949
01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:52,639
understand the videos do exist

1950
01:21:56,430 --> 01:21:54,960
4k

1951
01:21:58,550 --> 01:21:56,440
sure as heck

1952
01:22:00,709 --> 01:21:58,560
ufos you know and i don't even like

1953
01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:00,719
using the word ufo but we know if i say

1954
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:03,120
ufo we all know what i mean

1955
01:22:08,550 --> 01:22:06,239
what you're talking about yes so so

1956
01:22:10,629 --> 01:22:08,560
i think we got stuck with what they

1957
01:22:12,149 --> 01:22:10,639
could do i've been in their shoes before

1958
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:12,159
i've been in their shoes there's a task

1959
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:14,639
force coming out from from annapolis and

1960
01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:16,719
they they need this this this and this

1961
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:18,080
by monday and

1962
01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:19,600
suddenly we're all working the whole

1963
01:22:22,070 --> 01:22:20,560
weekend

1964
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:22,080
and they're completely unhappy with what

1965
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:23,520
they give them and they wanted the world

1966
01:22:26,149 --> 01:22:24,800
and it's like we only had a weekend

1967
01:22:27,750 --> 01:22:26,159
we're only three people we don't even

1968
01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:27,760
have paper towels in the office you know

1969
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:29,199
what i mean like

1970
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,239
so

1971
01:22:34,470 --> 01:22:32,159
i know people look at this and they go

1972
01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:34,480
it's the government but no this was a

1973
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:36,400
task force sometimes a task force is the

1974
01:22:40,550 --> 01:22:37,679
guy in the in the basement with the

1975
01:22:43,189 --> 01:22:40,560
state we have the red stapler you know

1976
01:22:45,669 --> 01:22:43,199
so and that's all it is so

1977
01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:45,679
disappointed sure could we have gotten

1978
01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:47,440
more could could the gentleman on the

1979
01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:49,600
task force have have been better

1980
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:51,760
educated to certain things

1981
01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:55,120
and you know not knowing about um

1982
01:23:00,550 --> 01:22:57,679
pardon me i can't malmstrom

1983
01:23:03,189 --> 01:23:00,560
really blew a lot of people's minds

1984
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:03,199
where that how did that not trickle up

1985
01:23:07,830 --> 01:23:05,679
how did the wilson memo not trickle up

1986
01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:07,840
yeah whether you whether you went left

1987
01:23:11,669 --> 01:23:09,360
or right on it

1988
01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:11,679
how did you not know

1989
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:13,600
how did you not get on the internet so

1990
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:15,360
it read something you know what i mean

1991
01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:16,880
like i don't wanna i don't wanna jump i

1992
01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:18,719
don't wanna jump on them because i don't

1993
01:23:21,350 --> 01:23:20,320
think it's that's not their whole job in

1994
01:23:22,950 --> 01:23:21,360
life

1995
01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:22,960
that was that was you know it was it is

1996
01:23:26,709 --> 01:23:25,280
during the task force but

1997
01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:26,719
i can't imagine what it would be like if

1998
01:23:30,149 --> 01:23:28,480
somebody walked up to me and said you

1999
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:30,159
have an opening you're going to be you

2000
01:23:33,750 --> 01:23:32,080
have six months to tell us everything we

2001
01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:33,760
know about the mating habits of

2002
01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:37,040
aardvarks and we need video and you know

2003
01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:39,360
on location and we need eyewitness

2004
01:23:42,310 --> 01:23:40,800
testimony and we need that we need to

2005
01:23:43,990 --> 01:23:42,320
really convince people

2006
01:23:46,390 --> 01:23:44,000
i don't even know if i could do that and

2007
01:23:47,669 --> 01:23:46,400
i know where to find aardvarks

2008
01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:47,679
you know you know what i mean like you

2009
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:48,880
right so

2010
01:23:54,070 --> 01:23:51,440
i don't mean to be be flippant but

2011
01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:54,080
if the next one

2012
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:56,560
and i don't mean to say isn't like

2013
01:24:00,149 --> 01:23:58,080
a blockbuster

2014
01:24:02,790 --> 01:24:00,159
but if the next one isn't glasses on

2015
01:24:04,950 --> 01:24:02,800
notes being taken you know what i mean

2016
01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:04,960
hitting the data points and the wickets

2017
01:24:08,229 --> 01:24:06,320
and building

2018
01:24:10,070 --> 01:24:08,239
obviously building on something and

2019
01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:10,080
coming to conclusions

2020
01:24:12,550 --> 01:24:11,520
asking questions like where the hell's

2021
01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:12,560
air force

2022
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:14,320
blue book's not good enough you don't

2023
01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:16,719
get to slide in your your eighth grade

2024
01:24:20,470 --> 01:24:19,120
book report for your dissertation

2025
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:20,480
you know what i mean just because the

2026
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:22,400
word counts the same

2027
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:24,719
negative so there's a lot of things that

2028
01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:27,280
have to be answered and if they don't

2029
01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:28,960
i mean that's where you're gonna

2030
01:24:32,310 --> 01:24:30,719
call me on your show and go sean what's

2031
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:32,320
next you know i don't have the i don't

2032
01:24:36,790 --> 01:24:34,960
have the battle plan for if if if they

2033
01:24:38,390 --> 01:24:36,800
don't do their job

2034
01:24:48,629 --> 01:24:38,400
um

2035
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:48,639
i like the way that you were a little

2036
01:24:55,189 --> 01:24:52,960
hesitant to say ufo but ufo has a clear

2037
01:24:55,990 --> 01:24:55,199
understanding you don't have to explain

2038
01:24:58,149 --> 01:24:56,000
it

2039
01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:58,159
uh he's a different story you bring up

2040
01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:00,480
uap to the man on the street and you're

2041
01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:02,880
going to have to sit there and explain

2042
01:25:07,990 --> 01:25:04,719
what in fact you would say well uap is a

2043
01:25:10,390 --> 01:25:08,000
ufo that's what that's probably how

2044
01:25:13,510 --> 01:25:10,400
you would clear that up but

2045
01:25:14,470 --> 01:25:13,520
that's where representative welch

2046
01:25:17,510 --> 01:25:14,480
uh

2047
01:25:19,830 --> 01:25:17,520
made the t made the hearing take a turn

2048
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:19,840
when he had said and race i would love

2049
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:21,520
to hear your opinion on this you and i

2050
01:25:25,910 --> 01:25:23,040
have not talked about the hearing uh

2051
01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:25,920
this week um but sean representative

2052
01:25:29,950 --> 01:25:28,159
walton okay

2053
01:25:33,430 --> 01:25:29,960
his hearing is about

2054
01:25:36,070 --> 01:25:33,440
extraterrestrials visiting earth

2055
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:36,080
when he said that i sat forward and when

2056
01:25:39,189 --> 01:25:37,840
he no he didn't

2057
01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:39,199
you know and he said when are we going

2058
01:25:44,790 --> 01:25:41,040
to talk about e.t

2059
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:44,800
and and he forced the hearing to go into

2060
01:25:49,189 --> 01:25:46,560
another direction

2061
01:25:52,310 --> 01:25:49,199
and it was interesting to hear bray and

2062
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:52,320
moultrie attempt to dance

2063
01:25:57,830 --> 01:25:55,199
on an answer and then representative

2064
01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:57,840
welsh came back with okay

2065
01:26:00,990 --> 01:25:58,880
all right

2066
01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:01,000
well are you going to tell us about

2067
01:26:05,830 --> 01:26:03,280
extraterrestrials in the classified

2068
01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:05,840
portion of this this afternoon

2069
01:26:10,709 --> 01:26:08,000
now that's what the committee was

2070
01:26:12,070 --> 01:26:10,719
expecting this hearing to be based on

2071
01:26:14,470 --> 01:26:12,080
ufos

2072
01:26:16,629 --> 01:26:14,480
right and i'm not i'm not playing around

2073
01:26:18,550 --> 01:26:16,639
with my thoughts here i'm saying this in

2074
01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:18,560
a very direct form

2075
01:26:25,270 --> 01:26:21,600
is that what representative welch

2076
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:27,350
yeah it's a good question is as to what

2077
01:26:30,550 --> 01:26:28,880
i hate to say this because i'm a blunt

2078
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:30,560
person i usually say what i mean well

2079
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:32,159
i'm using metaphor

2080
01:26:35,430 --> 01:26:34,480
from the hip let me i'll help you get

2081
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:35,440
there

2082
01:26:38,149 --> 01:26:36,480
um

2083
01:26:40,390 --> 01:26:38,159
i don't know if he was being catty at

2084
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:40,400
first or if he was being serious but he

2085
01:26:43,189 --> 01:26:41,840
was asking the question that's on the

2086
01:26:44,870 --> 01:26:43,199
tip of everybody's tongue whether

2087
01:26:47,350 --> 01:26:44,880
whether you want to tiptoe up to it for

2088
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:47,360
success you know like me or whether you

2089
01:26:53,189 --> 01:26:51,120
just want to get it get it now um

2090
01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:53,199
he he put it out there

2091
01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:54,400
and

2092
01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:56,000
there's different ways to

2093
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:57,760
for the for the gentleman to have

2094
01:27:00,390 --> 01:26:59,360
responded

2095
01:27:01,510 --> 01:27:00,400
okay

2096
01:27:04,070 --> 01:27:01,520
and

2097
01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:04,080
the right way to respond from from a

2098
01:27:07,669 --> 01:27:06,400
military standpoint because i would want

2099
01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:07,679
i would have asked something like why

2100
01:27:11,669 --> 01:27:10,080
are we constantly classifying these as

2101
01:27:13,189 --> 01:27:11,679
drones

2102
01:27:15,350 --> 01:27:13,199
you know why are we why are we giving a

2103
01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:15,360
perception that they are one thing when

2104
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:17,520
we have no idea as the origin the

2105
01:27:24,229 --> 01:27:21,199
manufacturer the pilot the control

2106
01:27:27,830 --> 01:27:24,239
so so why are we assigning them to that

2107
01:27:29,669 --> 01:27:27,840
first gentleman and secondly

2108
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:29,679
we all know we're talking we're talking

2109
01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:32,400
about ufos in this room

2110
01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:34,080
so why aren't we why aren't you

2111
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:35,920
referring to ufos why do you keep

2112
01:27:40,390 --> 01:27:37,840
referring to drone incursions and

2113
01:27:41,910 --> 01:27:40,400
training areas and things like that

2114
01:27:43,590 --> 01:27:41,920
and and those those are the right

2115
01:27:45,189 --> 01:27:43,600
questions and now they have two ways to

2116
01:27:46,629 --> 01:27:45,199
go with that

2117
01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:46,639
either we're going to see how they

2118
01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:48,560
respond and what they say and know that

2119
01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:51,280
that that that's for the closed session

2120
01:27:54,629 --> 01:27:53,120
which frankly would be telling us

2121
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:54,639
something and i think that's what we

2122
01:27:59,110 --> 01:27:56,960
should expect it to how we should expect

2123
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:59,120
it to go but there was a really

2124
01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:00,960
pragmatic way for them to answer that

2125
01:28:05,189 --> 01:28:02,960
and they chose not to they could have

2126
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:05,199
said simply because our our paperwork

2127
01:28:09,270 --> 01:28:06,800
and our reporting systems don't have a

2128
01:28:11,590 --> 01:28:09,280
block for ufo maybe they will when the

2129
01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:11,600
ua ptf is finished putting everything in

2130
01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:13,600
but right now they only have blocks for

2131
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:16,320
aircraft you know types that we're aware

2132
01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:17,040
of

2133
01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:19,040
and and the other portion is still

2134
01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:21,280
whether we've just destigmatized or not

2135
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:23,120
we don't have a slew of reports that say

2136
01:28:27,189 --> 01:28:24,880
ufo on

2137
01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:27,199
you know and so they may be going with

2138
01:28:30,149 --> 01:28:28,480
it with they could have said they were

2139
01:28:32,229 --> 01:28:30,159
just going with a general classification

2140
01:28:33,189 --> 01:28:32,239
they didn't choose that route

2141
01:28:34,709 --> 01:28:33,199
so

2142
01:28:36,470 --> 01:28:34,719
i think that we can we should this is

2143
01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:36,480
where we lean into stuff that that we've

2144
01:28:41,110 --> 01:28:38,960
heard lou say this is not china this is

2145
01:28:43,910 --> 01:28:41,120
not russia we have not been able to to

2146
01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:43,920
identify a terrestrial adversary that's

2147
01:28:48,629 --> 01:28:46,800
why these are still called unidentified

2148
01:28:50,149 --> 01:28:48,639
i'm not going to stand on the hot seat

2149
01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:50,159
and say it's aliens because i don't have

2150
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:51,600
one in the back room and you know bring

2151
01:28:56,310 --> 01:28:53,840
out for the interview and prove it

2152
01:28:58,070 --> 01:28:56,320
but come on man whatever that word means

2153
01:28:59,510 --> 01:28:58,080
to you

2154
01:29:00,550 --> 01:28:59,520
okay and i don't mean it in any kind of

2155
01:29:02,149 --> 01:29:00,560
disrespect there's some people that

2156
01:29:03,350 --> 01:29:02,159
don't like us using that word but so

2157
01:29:06,870 --> 01:29:03,360
let's say

2158
01:29:08,709 --> 01:29:06,880
non-human okay or non-terrestrial human

2159
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:08,719
if we if it turns out we're dealing with

2160
01:29:12,149 --> 01:29:10,239
jokers that look just like us from

2161
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:12,159
somewhere else you know what i mean sure

2162
01:29:17,030 --> 01:29:15,360
sure i'm just throwing it out there but

2163
01:29:19,350 --> 01:29:17,040
that's what we're all talking about none

2164
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:19,360
of us come to this come to this circus

2165
01:29:30,470 --> 01:29:21,360
tent because we want to hear about

2166
01:29:33,910 --> 01:29:32,629
first of all what was the hearing's

2167
01:29:38,149 --> 01:29:33,920
title

2168
01:29:39,510 --> 01:29:38,159
ufo hearing it was on ufos

2169
01:29:41,350 --> 01:29:39,520
yeah

2170
01:29:43,430 --> 01:29:41,360
it's about ufos that's why we're all

2171
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:43,440
showing that okay yeah

2172
01:29:49,030 --> 01:29:46,480
what is the ufo definition of ufo ufo is

2173
01:29:51,189 --> 01:29:49,040
unidentified flying object it

2174
01:29:53,990 --> 01:29:51,199
unidentified it's not the key word it's

2175
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:54,000
the last letter object

2176
01:29:58,550 --> 01:29:56,960
phenomenon unidentified aerial

2177
01:30:02,070 --> 01:29:58,560
phenomenon

2178
01:30:04,070 --> 01:30:02,080
that's a whole different definition

2179
01:30:06,550 --> 01:30:04,080
people aren't making that distinction no

2180
01:30:09,110 --> 01:30:06,560
they're not making them just ufo falls

2181
01:30:12,149 --> 01:30:09,120
under uap it's just like

2182
01:30:14,149 --> 01:30:12,159
uso falls under uap you know what i mean

2183
01:30:15,669 --> 01:30:14,159
all i'm saying like the definition wise

2184
01:30:18,229 --> 01:30:15,679
you're absolutely right but that was a

2185
01:30:20,149 --> 01:30:18,239
if that was called the ufo hearing oh

2186
01:30:21,669 --> 01:30:20,159
yeah but if that was called i know

2187
01:30:23,590 --> 01:30:21,679
you're right but an object is a

2188
01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:23,600
definable thing

2189
01:30:28,709 --> 01:30:26,239
and and the phenomenon is many things in

2190
01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:28,719
in this world when we've got technology

2191
01:30:34,470 --> 01:30:31,360
that can be blended in

2192
01:30:36,229 --> 01:30:34,480
to the very rare

2193
01:30:39,510 --> 01:30:36,239
phenomena

2194
01:30:41,350 --> 01:30:39,520
sightings and experiences and events

2195
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:41,360
that's what they're trying to do we came

2196
01:30:46,870 --> 01:30:44,320
to a ufo hearing and we took a slide

2197
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:46,880
way down into

2198
01:30:50,870 --> 01:30:48,880
these things are probably

2199
01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:50,880
foreign technology yeah you're right

2200
01:30:53,990 --> 01:30:52,320
you're right

2201
01:30:56,470 --> 01:30:54,000
here's what here's one other thing and

2202
01:30:58,870 --> 01:30:56,480
and i'm going to use sean's words about

2203
01:31:03,350 --> 01:30:58,880
tiptoeing around the subject

2204
01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:03,360
uap whatever uso whatever

2205
01:31:11,030 --> 01:31:06,639
say whatever you want ufo means one

2206
01:31:13,510 --> 01:31:11,040
thing on planet earth i see it aliens

2207
01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:13,520
what that means when people people don't

2208
01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:16,719
people are okay will a ufo we're not far

2209
01:31:21,189 --> 01:31:18,639
enough down the road to even worry about

2210
01:31:22,709 --> 01:31:21,199
being politically correct yet

2211
01:31:24,870 --> 01:31:22,719
i don't think i don't think you're going

2212
01:31:26,550 --> 01:31:24,880
to like this but but it is the job of

2213
01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:26,560
the gentleman that were on that stand in

2214
01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:28,480
front of the cameras in in in their best

2215
01:31:33,830 --> 01:31:30,880
dressed blues yes you know given their

2216
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:33,840
testimony and let me tell you what

2217
01:31:40,390 --> 01:31:37,600
from his standpoint

2218
01:31:42,390 --> 01:31:40,400
a person born and bred on mars that

2219
01:31:45,590 --> 01:31:42,400
manufactured a spaceship there and

2220
01:31:48,070 --> 01:31:45,600
brought it here is a foreign actor it is

2221
01:31:50,149 --> 01:31:48,080
a foreign adversary yes it is that it's

2222
01:31:52,470 --> 01:31:50,159
the proper definition so i'm not being

2223
01:31:54,229 --> 01:31:52,480
cute here he may very well have been

2224
01:31:56,709 --> 01:31:54,239
talking about aliens but he's like man

2225
01:31:58,390 --> 01:31:56,719
i'm saying aliens here

2226
01:32:00,390 --> 01:31:58,400
is it because again if you ain't got the

2227
01:32:01,910 --> 01:32:00,400
body if you ain't got the dna in the

2228
01:32:03,669 --> 01:32:01,920
video that's that's flawless and

2229
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everything's crazy

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yeah anything

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then i wouldn't be i don't want to be

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that

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we know what we're talking about you

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know what i mean like

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when i saw a big black triangle in the

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sky i did not think that was my

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brother's from the ship coming to pick

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me up for a weekend you know it

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so let's take our break right here

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this is fade to black i am your host

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jimmy church race i i'm gonna i'm gonna

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keep you over for one more segment if

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that's okay and well i've got to clear

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that with a

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chief officer uh cahill but uh let's do

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that right after the break i am your

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host jimmy church this is fade to black

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night two

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of our ufo hearing week our guest

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tonight is sean cahill we've got race

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hobbs doing a drive-by i'm your host

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jimmy church we'll be right back after

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[Music]

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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you're listening to fade to black

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[Applause]

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you're listening to jimmy church and

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[Applause]

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this is jimmy church of fade to black

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[Music]

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you are listening to fate to black with

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01:36:52,070 --> 01:36:49,109
hi i'm reece vance you're listening to

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jimmy church this is revolution the

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revolution will not be televised the

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revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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so

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[Music]

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welcome back fate to block i'm your host

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jimmy church

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night two of our

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01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:49,119
ufo hearing week here on fade to black i

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01:37:55,270 --> 01:37:52,320
take this subject very very seriously

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01:37:57,669 --> 01:37:55,280
and uh it's it's it's been a great week

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01:38:00,229 --> 01:37:57,679
for me personally and uh tonight we have

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01:38:01,350 --> 01:38:00,239
uh sean cahill on with us

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01:38:04,390 --> 01:38:01,360
and

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01:38:07,030 --> 01:38:04,400
grace hobbs is also with us uh he is the

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01:38:10,870 --> 01:38:07,040
general manager of kunx

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01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:10,880
um and sean i want to ask you would you

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01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:12,560
would you testify

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would it surprise you if they asked you

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01:38:18,950 --> 01:38:16,880
to testify

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01:38:21,189 --> 01:38:18,960
it wouldn't surprise me uh i don't think

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01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:21,199
i'm an a-list testifier

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but um but it wouldn't surprise me

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um and yes i would absolutely you're

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01:38:28,870 --> 01:38:27,440
damn right yeah

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and uh

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there's uh another part to somebody like

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01:38:36,790 --> 01:38:33,760
yourself

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uh going up uh and giving sworn

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testimony

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01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:39,920
um

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01:38:45,430 --> 01:38:43,360
i think that bray and moultrie

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01:38:47,590 --> 01:38:45,440
uh uh

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01:38:50,149 --> 01:38:47,600
towed the party line if so to speak

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01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:50,159
right and and i think that they had to i

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01:38:54,550 --> 01:38:52,080
okay i get all of that

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01:38:55,669 --> 01:38:54,560
i don't see that coming from you

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01:38:57,669 --> 01:38:55,679
um

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01:39:00,229 --> 01:38:57,679
would you would you would you go

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directly there and and surprise some

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01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:02,000
people

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01:39:07,109 --> 01:39:03,280
i tell you what if i was given the

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01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:07,119
opportunity to soliloquize as i do on on

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01:39:12,470 --> 01:39:09,119
on shows on occasion

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01:39:14,470 --> 01:39:12,480
i i would i would i would um i would

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talk about the things that that they

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01:39:18,470 --> 01:39:16,639
would give me the room to talk about

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assuming it wasn't just a yes ma'am no

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ma'am

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01:39:25,990 --> 01:39:22,320
kind of thing right um

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01:39:28,149 --> 01:39:26,000
because there is

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01:39:30,390 --> 01:39:28,159
there is a side of this

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that's not just nuts and bolts mishap

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reports and gun camera footage

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01:39:36,709 --> 01:39:34,400
there there is that you know there is

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more to it and there is a side to this

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01:39:42,229 --> 01:39:38,960
that that the government needs to

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01:39:45,430 --> 01:39:42,239
understand that this is happening

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01:39:47,750 --> 01:39:45,440
to a lot of people it's not just

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01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:47,760
occurring and i'm not talking about you

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01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:48,960
know i know there's people in government

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01:39:52,070 --> 01:39:50,400
that would immediately get shaky boots

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01:39:54,390 --> 01:39:52,080
about class action lawsuits taking

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responsibility for not protecting the

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american people or whatever we could

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01:40:01,189 --> 01:39:58,960
throw into that catch-all

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01:40:04,070 --> 01:40:01,199
but hold on a second

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01:40:06,390 --> 01:40:04,080
it's not just fouling military ranges

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01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:06,400
this didn't just my my experiences did

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01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:10,000
not just only occur in 2004 in in the

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01:40:14,709 --> 01:40:12,000
fleet fleet test range

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01:40:17,109 --> 01:40:14,719
you know 50 miles uh west of my home

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01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:17,119
it's occurred over my home in my home

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01:40:21,669 --> 01:40:19,119
and around my family

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01:40:25,590 --> 01:40:23,990
that is that needs to be acknowledged

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because there are

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there are thousands if not hundreds of

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thousands and possibly millions of

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01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:31,600
people that watch shows like this

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01:40:34,629 --> 01:40:33,119
that are waiting for someone to

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acknowledge that what happened in their

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01:40:37,669 --> 01:40:36,320
life was true and real and that they're

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not crazy

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and at the moment we're only shining

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01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:41,280
that light on folks like me and dave

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01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:42,639
fraver and

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and alex dietrich and and the other

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pilots

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01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:48,960
it needs to be opened up and

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acknowledged and so while while i'm

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someone that thinks we've already had

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01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:55,440
the lowercase d disclosure not the one

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01:40:59,030 --> 01:40:57,040
we all want in the hollywood movie when

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we're all done and celebrating right

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01:41:02,149 --> 01:41:00,080
okay

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01:41:03,030 --> 01:41:02,159
but now we need acknowledgement

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and

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we when when the congressman asks said

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this is about ufos is this about et's

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01:41:10,229 --> 01:41:09,040
when are we going to hear about that

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01:41:12,310 --> 01:41:10,239
stuff

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01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:12,320
that's that's the crack in the door

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opening for that portion of this because

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it's not just

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call it quits we know something's real

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01:41:23,590 --> 01:41:21,360
we just can't figure out what it is no

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01:41:26,229 --> 01:41:23,600
now we get gary nolan in here dr gary

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01:41:27,030 --> 01:41:26,239
nolan now we get we we get uh you know

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01:41:35,270 --> 01:41:27,040
the

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01:41:37,030 --> 01:41:35,280
understand

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01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:37,040
just like they only had the weekend to

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01:41:42,070 --> 01:41:39,360
put that stuff together and they gave us

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01:41:44,950 --> 01:41:42,080
what they could that was unclassified

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01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:44,960
it's a pain it's a tough process getting

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01:41:48,709 --> 01:41:46,560
that piece of paper

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01:41:50,709 --> 01:41:48,719
that is classified

2441
01:41:52,310 --> 01:41:50,719
whether redacted and sanitized or

2442
01:41:53,830 --> 01:41:52,320
whether you're getting it unclassified

2443
01:41:55,430 --> 01:41:53,840
there's a process just like getting your

2444
01:41:56,950 --> 01:41:55,440
light you can't walk into the dmv and go

2445
01:41:58,390 --> 01:41:56,960
give me my license

2446
01:42:01,350 --> 01:41:58,400
and walk out you got to fill out the

2447
01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:01,360
paperwork you got to stand in the line

2448
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:03,280
executive order that could change

2449
01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:04,719
everything

2450
01:42:08,709 --> 01:42:07,280
you know what i mean a blanket order by

2451
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:08,719
a higher authority could change

2452
01:42:11,350 --> 01:42:09,760
everything

2453
01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:11,360
amnesty for folks could change

2454
01:42:15,270 --> 01:42:13,600
everything and when i say amnesty people

2455
01:42:17,430 --> 01:42:15,280
go well we want people held accountable

2456
01:42:19,910 --> 01:42:17,440
for what they did man i'm not talking

2457
01:42:20,950 --> 01:42:19,920
about amnesty for people who did things

2458
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:20,960
wrong

2459
01:42:24,950 --> 01:42:22,880
i'm talking about amnesty for people who

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01:42:28,550 --> 01:42:24,960
sign non-disclosure agreements

2461
01:42:30,870 --> 01:42:28,560
amnesty for people who have some kind of

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01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:30,880
of threat on some kind of spectrum

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01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:33,119
against them by authority

2464
01:42:36,390 --> 01:42:35,040
to never speak about the things that

2465
01:42:38,470 --> 01:42:36,400
they've seen

2466
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:38,480
they need that that's who we want

2467
01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:40,080
amnesty for

2468
01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:41,600
we're not all these a lot of people come

2469
01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:42,719
to me and they're like

2470
01:42:45,669 --> 01:42:44,320
but we want the truth we want people

2471
01:42:47,350 --> 01:42:45,679
held accountable i'm like i don't know

2472
01:42:48,550 --> 01:42:47,360
which folks you're talking about i'm

2473
01:42:51,270 --> 01:42:48,560
just talking about the people with the

2474
01:42:53,270 --> 01:42:51,280
keys of the damn file cabinet

2475
01:42:54,229 --> 01:42:53,280
that's all i'm talking about

2476
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:54,239
you know what i mean because i don't

2477
01:42:58,390 --> 01:42:56,080
know what's in the file cabinet yet yes

2478
01:43:00,149 --> 01:42:58,400
i have experiences you have experiences

2479
01:43:02,070 --> 01:43:00,159
we've read books we have assumptions we

2480
01:43:04,629 --> 01:43:02,080
put it all together we are pattern

2481
01:43:06,709 --> 01:43:04,639
recognition generators

2482
01:43:08,550 --> 01:43:06,719
but we need we if we

2483
01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:08,560
if we knew we wouldn't be going through

2484
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:14,149
and and and you bring up a really good

2485
01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:15,280
point

2486
01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:16,719
if um

2487
01:43:21,510 --> 01:43:19,840
if the senate and and congress and the

2488
01:43:24,709 --> 01:43:21,520
house of representatives

2489
01:43:26,550 --> 01:43:24,719
if they want to solely focus on

2490
01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:26,560
the professional

2491
01:43:31,189 --> 01:43:29,199
service men and women which is fine if

2492
01:43:33,510 --> 01:43:31,199
that's what they choose to do we don't

2493
01:43:36,149 --> 01:43:33,520
have much of a choice but then we we

2494
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:36,159
have other examples it's not just the

2495
01:43:41,590 --> 01:43:38,800
nimitz we have randall shim

2496
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:41,600
and and john burroughs and colonel halt

2497
01:43:47,189 --> 01:43:45,280
and and jim peniston who are alive

2498
01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:47,199
right that could go

2499
01:43:51,830 --> 01:43:49,280
and and sit down and discuss what

2500
01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:51,840
happened in rendelsham forest uh over

2501
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:54,000
those three days and colonel robert

2502
01:43:58,550 --> 01:43:56,239
salas

2503
01:44:00,550 --> 01:43:58,560
called before to talk about malmstrom

2504
01:44:03,750 --> 01:44:00,560
yeah that that's that's serious stuff

2505
01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:03,760
right there it is very serious and and

2506
01:44:07,990 --> 01:44:05,760
this is something with uh

2507
01:44:11,189 --> 01:44:08,000
that that fabulous

2508
01:44:13,990 --> 01:44:11,199
military paperwork paper trail right the

2509
01:44:15,189 --> 01:44:14,000
reports the the incident reports uh the

2510
01:44:18,310 --> 01:44:15,199
interviews

2511
01:44:21,189 --> 01:44:18,320
um and and the debriefings and the

2512
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:21,199
things that went on uh not only during

2513
01:44:25,270 --> 01:44:22,960
the incident itself which is all

2514
01:44:27,669 --> 01:44:25,280
documented but of course everything that

2515
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:27,679
happened afterwards and they are here

2516
01:44:32,470 --> 01:44:29,280
and i think that they should go in and

2517
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:32,480
testify and and speaking about that so i

2518
01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:35,440
hope that if they want to choose a

2519
01:44:40,070 --> 01:44:38,159
military bent on this and not bring in

2520
01:44:41,990 --> 01:44:40,080
you know civilian witnesses bringing in

2521
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:42,000
travis walton for example i think that i

2522
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:43,280
think that kind of thing will happen

2523
01:44:45,990 --> 01:44:44,800
down the road at some point do you think

2524
01:44:47,990 --> 01:44:46,000
so

2525
01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:48,000
well i think if if we do if we're doing

2526
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:50,480
this right i would say maybe a year from

2527
01:44:54,310 --> 01:44:52,239
now maybe you know something like that

2528
01:44:56,390 --> 01:44:54,320
once once they're like oh my god the

2529
01:44:58,070 --> 01:44:56,400
military folks are seeing it you know oh

2530
01:44:59,830 --> 01:44:58,080
my god the cops are seeing it oh

2531
01:45:02,470 --> 01:44:59,840
department of homeland security border

2532
01:45:04,229 --> 01:45:02,480
patrol customs

2533
01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:04,239
maybe we can start calling the folks in

2534
01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:07,520
yeah the faa and radar and

2535
01:45:12,070 --> 01:45:10,000
and and the stuff that is uh the data

2536
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:12,080
collection that is there i wanted to go

2537
01:45:16,390 --> 01:45:13,920
back i'm sorry race you had something to

2538
01:45:20,310 --> 01:45:16,400
say uh just really quick

2539
01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:20,320
the uh wilson davis document being uh

2540
01:45:25,590 --> 01:45:22,560
brought in on the record

2541
01:45:27,430 --> 01:45:25,600
how significant is that uh for future

2542
01:45:28,830 --> 01:45:27,440
hearings

2543
01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:28,840
you asking me

2544
01:45:33,430 --> 01:45:31,119
yeah i don't think it's significant at

2545
01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:33,440
all someone who sat in on a meeting and

2546
01:45:37,189 --> 01:45:35,920
took notes about it later on and then it

2547
01:45:38,870 --> 01:45:37,199
just turning up somewhere i don't think

2548
01:45:40,950 --> 01:45:38,880
that's significant at all what i think

2549
01:45:43,270 --> 01:45:40,960
is significant is this

2550
01:45:45,109 --> 01:45:43,280
none of this is new

2551
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:45,119
it's important for everybody listening

2552
01:45:49,189 --> 01:45:47,280
to what we're saying here tonight that

2553
01:45:52,310 --> 01:45:49,199
none of this is new

2554
01:45:54,790 --> 01:45:52,320
there are pilots go back to the 50.

2555
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:54,800
major keyhole for example

2556
01:45:59,189 --> 01:45:57,280
he was a ufo

2557
01:46:00,149 --> 01:45:59,199
ardent ufo

2558
01:46:03,990 --> 01:46:00,159
uh

2559
01:46:06,070 --> 01:46:04,000
researcher advocate yeah and research

2560
01:46:07,830 --> 01:46:06,080
researcher but i mean he was the one

2561
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:07,840
really that i remember back in my

2562
01:46:10,709 --> 01:46:09,040
beginnings

2563
01:46:13,590 --> 01:46:10,719
that was preaching this stuff from the

2564
01:46:15,669 --> 01:46:13,600
mountaintops you know for the for the us

2565
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:15,679
government to to get involved he wasn't

2566
01:46:18,629 --> 01:46:17,760
talking about the military he's talking

2567
01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:18,639
about

2568
01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:21,440
the politicians and i think that we need

2569
01:46:25,510 --> 01:46:23,440
to be clear

2570
01:46:27,189 --> 01:46:25,520
here that that's what we need to be

2571
01:46:29,189 --> 01:46:27,199
talking about here if and not that's

2572
01:46:31,669 --> 01:46:29,199
what we're talking about here

2573
01:46:34,470 --> 01:46:31,679
because it's convincing all of these

2574
01:46:35,669 --> 01:46:34,480
politicians that are representatives of

2575
01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:35,679
us all

2576
01:46:38,830 --> 01:46:37,679
that this is a real

2577
01:46:41,350 --> 01:46:38,840
and

2578
01:46:42,629 --> 01:46:41,360
ever-present issue

2579
01:46:44,390 --> 01:46:42,639
it's not

2580
01:46:46,390 --> 01:46:44,400
comic book stuff

2581
01:46:48,149 --> 01:46:46,400
it's not something that some big general

2582
01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:48,159
can come to you and say

2583
01:46:52,070 --> 01:46:50,239
oh no those people are smoking dope or

2584
01:46:54,149 --> 01:46:52,080
it's mass hallucinations or you know

2585
01:46:55,590 --> 01:46:54,159
they're on ayahuasca or whatever it's

2586
01:46:57,430 --> 01:46:55,600
not the case

2587
01:47:00,070 --> 01:46:57,440
um

2588
01:47:02,629 --> 01:47:00,080
james mcdonald you know a university

2589
01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:02,639
professor did some of the most amazing

2590
01:47:05,430 --> 01:47:03,760
research

2591
01:47:08,070 --> 01:47:05,440
these are boots on the ground people

2592
01:47:10,390 --> 01:47:08,080
that went to locations and documented

2593
01:47:13,189 --> 01:47:10,400
this stuff to the umph degree

2594
01:47:15,669 --> 01:47:13,199
heavy detail annie druffle

2595
01:47:18,310 --> 01:47:15,679
at apro these people way back in the

2596
01:47:21,109 --> 01:47:18,320
beginning they did they laid the

2597
01:47:24,229 --> 01:47:21,119
foundation they did the legwork they did

2598
01:47:26,550 --> 01:47:24,239
it and they brought it i mean there's a

2599
01:47:28,550 --> 01:47:26,560
reason that it was 54 years ago that

2600
01:47:31,990 --> 01:47:28,560
they did this before

2601
01:47:34,310 --> 01:47:32,000
and it's 54 years down the track

2602
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:34,320
that it just happened again

2603
01:47:38,390 --> 01:47:37,199
and that's why i said you know for folks

2604
01:47:40,629 --> 01:47:38,400
like sean

2605
01:47:42,310 --> 01:47:40,639
and and and these guys to keep their

2606
01:47:45,750 --> 01:47:42,320
boot on the throat

2607
01:47:47,510 --> 01:47:45,760
of this subject on on pressing it on

2608
01:47:51,350 --> 01:47:47,520
them because

2609
01:47:55,750 --> 01:47:52,870
you know just like i've spoke to you

2610
01:48:00,550 --> 01:47:55,760
before the disclosure project had a

2611
01:48:01,669 --> 01:48:00,560
monsoon of heavy hitters that came with

2612
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:01,679
very

2613
01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:03,600
john callahan

2614
01:48:09,270 --> 01:48:07,440
an accident investigation yes yes he had

2615
01:48:12,149 --> 01:48:09,280
real data

2616
01:48:14,709 --> 01:48:12,159
ground-based radar ground-based data

2617
01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:14,719
radar recordings on

2618
01:48:19,669 --> 01:48:16,960
in the air radar and in the air

2619
01:48:21,350 --> 01:48:19,679
communications he had it all it just

2620
01:48:23,669 --> 01:48:21,360
really doesn't get much better than that

2621
01:48:27,430 --> 01:48:23,679
in this day and age yeah

2622
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:27,440
sean let me jump races were talking to

2623
01:48:32,950 --> 01:48:30,960
the japan airlines uh alaska

2624
01:48:34,629 --> 01:48:32,960
ufo encounter

2625
01:48:35,669 --> 01:48:34,639
and uh

2626
01:48:38,709 --> 01:48:35,679
uh

2627
01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:38,719
19 over alaska in 19

2628
01:48:42,070 --> 01:48:40,000
80

2629
01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:42,080
85.

2630
01:48:46,709 --> 01:48:44,800
i'm i'm i'm guessing real quick

2631
01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:46,719
yeah yeah

2632
01:48:52,390 --> 01:48:49,119
but but back to my point the the

2633
01:48:54,870 --> 01:48:52,400
original question yeah um was what is

2634
01:48:55,669 --> 01:48:54,880
the significance of

2635
01:48:58,470 --> 01:48:55,679
uh

2636
01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:58,480
the wilson davis document being you know

2637
01:49:03,189 --> 01:49:00,719
brought in and and put on the public

2638
01:49:05,590 --> 01:49:03,199
record including even mentioning

2639
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:05,600
malmstrom if this stuff is brought up in

2640
01:49:10,550 --> 01:49:07,600
the hearing can it be referenced later

2641
01:49:12,629 --> 01:49:10,560
is that the importance of of having that

2642
01:49:14,790 --> 01:49:12,639
document there so nobody can claim that

2643
01:49:17,430 --> 01:49:14,800
they didn't know it existed

2644
01:49:18,310 --> 01:49:17,440
well let me let me let me say this first

2645
01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:18,320
that

2646
01:49:24,229 --> 01:49:22,800
ray said even though i i would use a

2647
01:49:25,830 --> 01:49:24,239
little different semantics i'm not for

2648
01:49:27,910 --> 01:49:25,840
putting boots on anyone's neck i want to

2649
01:49:29,270 --> 01:49:27,920
shake hands and have a conversation but

2650
01:49:30,870 --> 01:49:29,280
i understand what you're talking about

2651
01:49:31,669 --> 01:49:30,880
you're talking about pressure that's

2652
01:49:33,830 --> 01:49:31,679
okay

2653
01:49:36,310 --> 01:49:33,840
um let me say this

2654
01:49:37,990 --> 01:49:36,320
you you you went on to cite

2655
01:49:40,070 --> 01:49:38,000
numerous

2656
01:49:41,510 --> 01:49:40,080
important historical cases and many

2657
01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:41,520
important figures

2658
01:49:44,310 --> 01:49:43,119
i'm going to tell you why i think the

2659
01:49:46,790 --> 01:49:44,320
the wilson

2660
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:46,800
document specifically is more important

2661
01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:48,880
than those right now

2662
01:49:52,950 --> 01:49:50,960
because the people involved

2663
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:52,960
are still alive

2664
01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:54,880
they're able to be called towards to

2665
01:49:57,669 --> 01:49:56,800
testify the people that are in the some

2666
01:49:59,030 --> 01:49:57,679
of the people that are in those

2667
01:50:00,229 --> 01:49:59,040
documents

2668
01:50:02,229 --> 01:50:00,239
are able to be called in front of a

2669
01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:02,239
hearing and testify as to the

2670
01:50:05,669 --> 01:50:04,480
validity of those things under oath

2671
01:50:07,189 --> 01:50:05,679
and that's the big difference so we can

2672
01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:07,199
get to the bottom of that immediately

2673
01:50:10,950 --> 01:50:08,800
and we're gonna it

2674
01:50:12,790 --> 01:50:10,960
it honestly and i'll tell you this i

2675
01:50:14,629 --> 01:50:12,800
think it's valid i wouldn't have i

2676
01:50:16,709 --> 01:50:14,639
wouldn't have tweeted out a selfie of me

2677
01:50:18,550 --> 01:50:16,719
in front of paradise and grier in las

2678
01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:18,560
vegas if i didn't think we needed to

2679
01:50:21,430 --> 01:50:20,080
investigate

2680
01:50:23,830 --> 01:50:21,440
that document

2681
01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:23,840
in especially in the public eye now

2682
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:25,679
where it goes at the end of this again

2683
01:50:29,669 --> 01:50:27,840
i'm not i'm not dying on that hill

2684
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:29,679
we i want to learn

2685
01:50:32,790 --> 01:50:31,119
but the peop some of the people that are

2686
01:50:35,270 --> 01:50:32,800
involved can be in front of that next

2687
01:50:37,109 --> 01:50:35,280
earring or can be behind closed doors if

2688
01:50:40,149 --> 01:50:37,119
they're given the proper protections

2689
01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:40,159
they can tell the real story behind that

2690
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:42,480
we need that story told

2691
01:50:47,109 --> 01:50:44,960
because the the follow-on conclusions of

2692
01:50:49,910 --> 01:50:47,119
what's in that document the locations of

2693
01:50:52,550 --> 01:50:49,920
where that meeting alleged to occur

2694
01:50:55,109 --> 01:50:52,560
and the the breadcrumbs that follow over

2695
01:50:58,310 --> 01:50:55,119
the years after that are going to give

2696
01:50:59,990 --> 01:50:58,320
federal investigators a huge place

2697
01:51:01,430 --> 01:51:00,000
to really live in the middle of this

2698
01:51:02,550 --> 01:51:01,440
investigation

2699
01:51:04,390 --> 01:51:02,560
so

2700
01:51:05,350 --> 01:51:04,400
we the quicker we can get to the bottom

2701
01:51:06,950 --> 01:51:05,360
of that

2702
01:51:09,669 --> 01:51:06,960
the quicker i think we can see the kinds

2703
01:51:11,910 --> 01:51:09,679
of hearings that everybody wanted to see

2704
01:51:14,550 --> 01:51:11,920
expected to see and hope you know had

2705
01:51:17,990 --> 01:51:14,560
that that tom cruise i want the truth

2706
01:51:19,990 --> 01:51:18,000
you can't handle the truth moment

2707
01:51:21,990 --> 01:51:20,000
wonderful that would so so i would love

2708
01:51:25,229 --> 01:51:22,000
to see those people called in as well

2709
01:51:33,030 --> 01:51:28,709
specifically um and i agree

2710
01:51:36,070 --> 01:51:33,040
but would somebody like eric davis who

2711
01:51:37,589 --> 01:51:36,080
has had his fingers in just about every

2712
01:51:38,950 --> 01:51:37,599
ufo pie

2713
01:51:41,350 --> 01:51:38,960
that you can

2714
01:51:43,990 --> 01:51:41,360
uh stick your finger into

2715
01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:44,000
uh he would have a lot to answer for and

2716
01:51:47,990 --> 01:51:45,840
a lot of

2717
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:48,000
statements that are in that document are

2718
01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:49,679
going to be a difficult thing for

2719
01:51:52,550 --> 01:51:51,119
somebody

2720
01:51:56,709 --> 01:51:52,560
could he

2721
01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:56,719
you think that he would be willing to

2722
01:52:00,390 --> 01:51:58,800
testify

2723
01:52:03,109 --> 01:52:00,400
i think that like a lot of other people

2724
01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:03,119
involved yeah there there is a

2725
01:52:06,310 --> 01:52:05,119
there there's a and i don't want not

2726
01:52:08,709 --> 01:52:06,320
disrespecting you but there's an

2727
01:52:10,310 --> 01:52:08,719
armchair quarterback aspect of this

2728
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:10,320
where once we go wow that'd be great if

2729
01:52:13,910 --> 01:52:12,159
someone testified we get in the minutia

2730
01:52:16,550 --> 01:52:13,920
and we start looking at those follow-on

2731
01:52:18,310 --> 01:52:16,560
possibilities and conclusions sure

2732
01:52:19,669 --> 01:52:18,320
now again

2733
01:52:21,589 --> 01:52:19,679
i'm not picking anything out

2734
01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:21,599
specifically but that's what that's what

2735
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:24,159
amnesty is for that's that's that's

2736
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:25,040
where

2737
01:52:29,669 --> 01:52:27,760
this kind of governmental oversight has

2738
01:52:31,830 --> 01:52:29,679
to say i don't give a damn what went on

2739
01:52:33,270 --> 01:52:31,840
before i don't care who your boss was i

2740
01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:33,280
don't care what your

2741
01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:35,679
who who threatened you bring us in here

2742
01:52:38,629 --> 01:52:37,199
and if that's the case i'm not making

2743
01:52:40,070 --> 01:52:38,639
any illusions here i'm just saying

2744
01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:40,080
that's the kind of the zeitgeist

2745
01:52:44,470 --> 01:52:42,000
everyone assumes is why folks don't come

2746
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:44,480
forward and speak

2747
01:52:47,270 --> 01:52:46,000
protect them if you're you're a

2748
01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:47,280
congressman you're the united states

2749
01:52:50,629 --> 01:52:48,960
government do it in public protect these

2750
01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:50,639
people tell them tell them what's going

2751
01:52:54,070 --> 01:52:52,560
on we're not going to put up

2752
01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:54,080
we're not going to put up with any

2753
01:52:58,870 --> 01:52:56,080
nonsense around this you know what i

2754
01:53:00,550 --> 01:52:58,880
mean this is we're not this isn't russia

2755
01:53:02,709 --> 01:53:00,560
you don't shake hands and have to have

2756
01:53:03,990 --> 01:53:02,719
the opposition drop dead tomorrow that's

2757
01:53:05,189 --> 01:53:04,000
not cool

2758
01:53:07,270 --> 01:53:05,199
we're not i don't think we're gonna

2759
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:07,280
happen in the 60s

2760
01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:08,400
yeah i don't want to get that's a whole

2761
01:53:12,229 --> 01:53:10,480
nother show man i'm with you area but

2762
01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:12,239
yeah you know i mean i mean you know

2763
01:53:15,430 --> 01:53:14,080
who's gonna who's gonna protect the

2764
01:53:16,709 --> 01:53:15,440
senators who's gonna protect the

2765
01:53:17,830 --> 01:53:16,719
congressman

2766
01:53:19,830 --> 01:53:17,840
well

2767
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:19,840
i hate to say this but having having

2768
01:53:24,149 --> 01:53:22,320
served in the military for 20 years

2769
01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:24,159
the right people who have the jobs the

2770
01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:26,080
secret service and everybody else and if

2771
01:53:30,709 --> 01:53:28,719
and if they fail then then we go to work

2772
01:53:33,430 --> 01:53:30,719
again you know what i mean this we took

2773
01:53:35,270 --> 01:53:33,440
these jobs to represent the people

2774
01:53:36,470 --> 01:53:35,280
people in the military took the job

2775
01:53:37,750 --> 01:53:36,480
pardoned me for for getting on the

2776
01:53:39,669 --> 01:53:37,760
soapbox but

2777
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:39,679
in my case i wasn't put under a lot of

2778
01:53:44,149 --> 01:53:41,840
that much danger as compared to like a

2779
01:53:45,669 --> 01:53:44,159
an infantry man or socom or something

2780
01:53:46,950 --> 01:53:45,679
like that but damn it we put our lives

2781
01:53:48,950 --> 01:53:46,960
on the line we're willing to die for

2782
01:53:50,149 --> 01:53:48,960
college education three meals a day and

2783
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:50,159
a pension

2784
01:53:55,990 --> 01:53:53,520
you know it it the folks in congress

2785
01:53:57,910 --> 01:53:56,000
the folks in government

2786
01:54:00,149 --> 01:53:57,920
i don't want them to be under any kind

2787
01:54:01,510 --> 01:54:00,159
of threat i'm not saying suck it up i

2788
01:54:03,270 --> 01:54:01,520
don't want anything to happen to their

2789
01:54:04,709 --> 01:54:03,280
families but man

2790
01:54:08,229 --> 01:54:04,719
who's going to make this world better if

2791
01:54:11,350 --> 01:54:08,239
we don't stand up we need we need an uh

2792
01:54:13,910 --> 01:54:11,360
a boatload of elliot ness

2793
01:54:15,910 --> 01:54:13,920
that's what we need yeah kind of courage

2794
01:54:18,149 --> 01:54:15,920
that kind of fortitude and

2795
01:54:19,669 --> 01:54:18,159
and and are willing to just hold the

2796
01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:19,679
line

2797
01:54:24,709 --> 01:54:22,000
and yeah it's gonna take that sean it

2798
01:54:26,149 --> 01:54:24,719
truly is going to take that and men like

2799
01:54:28,870 --> 01:54:26,159
yourself

2800
01:54:30,870 --> 01:54:28,880
encourage me they encourage me and the

2801
01:54:32,550 --> 01:54:30,880
work that you guys are doing

2802
01:54:34,070 --> 01:54:32,560
um

2803
01:54:35,990 --> 01:54:34,080
there's a way for us to get to the end

2804
01:54:38,470 --> 01:54:36,000
of the rainbow with everybody on board

2805
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:38,480
the bus man and i i think that about our

2806
01:54:42,229 --> 01:54:40,080
culture right now and i think that about

2807
01:54:43,669 --> 01:54:42,239
our politics as well because

2808
01:54:45,669 --> 01:54:43,679
look i've been on both sides of the

2809
01:54:48,149 --> 01:54:45,679
political fence in my life

2810
01:54:48,950 --> 01:54:48,159
you know after 9 11 i was a i

2811
01:54:51,030 --> 01:54:48,960
man

2812
01:54:53,109 --> 01:54:51,040
i was very conservative for a long time

2813
01:54:54,790 --> 01:54:53,119
as at when i served in the military

2814
01:54:56,870 --> 01:54:54,800
when i got out and became a meditator i

2815
01:54:59,270 --> 01:54:56,880
became a hell of a lot more liberal just

2816
01:55:01,030 --> 01:54:59,280
using those two words simply you know

2817
01:55:02,709 --> 01:55:01,040
what i mean but in the end what i have

2818
01:55:04,229 --> 01:55:02,719
is a mixture of somebody who's seen both

2819
01:55:07,510 --> 01:55:04,239
sides and it's like damn it we all want

2820
01:55:09,910 --> 01:55:07,520
the same thing i am validated safe

2821
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:09,920
heard and able to be ourselves without

2822
01:55:16,229 --> 01:55:11,920
anybody really crapping on us for it you

2823
01:55:19,750 --> 01:55:17,830
i've been a conservative shot all my

2824
01:55:21,669 --> 01:55:19,760
life and hanging around jimmy man i've

2825
01:55:23,109 --> 01:55:21,679
gotten a lot softer i've got a lot

2826
01:55:24,950 --> 01:55:23,119
easier

2827
01:55:28,709 --> 01:55:24,960
i'm a tanned hippy man who's moving to

2828
01:55:30,470 --> 01:55:28,719
wyoming and i wouldn't move there

2829
01:55:33,030 --> 01:55:30,480
yeah i wouldn't move there if i hadn't

2830
01:55:34,790 --> 01:55:33,040
if i hadn't if i wasn't mature enough to

2831
01:55:37,189 --> 01:55:34,800
live next door to somebody flying a

2832
01:55:40,229 --> 01:55:37,199
trump flag which i don't agree with man

2833
01:55:42,790 --> 01:55:40,239
but if i can't be your neighbor

2834
01:55:45,109 --> 01:55:42,800
then i i don't belong talking any crap

2835
01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:45,119
about what you belong what you believe

2836
01:55:49,430 --> 01:55:46,960
that's a good point and look at me i'm a

2837
01:55:53,189 --> 01:55:49,440
tanned hippie in palmdale i stand out

2838
01:55:55,990 --> 01:55:53,199
like a sore i i drive around palmdale

2839
01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:56,000
the most conservative city in

2840
01:56:00,310 --> 01:55:57,520
california

2841
01:56:03,510 --> 01:56:00,320
with an alien sticker on the back of my

2842
01:56:06,149 --> 01:56:03,520
jeep right it's just like that they know

2843
01:56:07,750 --> 01:56:06,159
what time it is but okay let's

2844
01:56:09,430 --> 01:56:07,760
i'm gonna get back to eric davis really

2845
01:56:11,270 --> 01:56:09,440
quick before the break

2846
01:56:13,510 --> 01:56:11,280
um

2847
01:56:14,709 --> 01:56:13,520
is it possible

2848
01:56:16,709 --> 01:56:14,719
for

2849
01:56:18,550 --> 01:56:16,719
one of the representatives or if these

2850
01:56:20,149 --> 01:56:18,560
hearings go to the senate with senate

2851
01:56:21,990 --> 01:56:20,159
intelligence committee which would be

2852
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:22,000
pretty incredible too as well

2853
01:56:27,669 --> 01:56:24,480
to ask eric davis

2854
01:56:29,910 --> 01:56:27,679
about the quote attributed to him in the

2855
01:56:33,669 --> 01:56:29,920
new york times

2856
01:56:36,790 --> 01:56:33,679
that he briefed the senate

2857
01:56:40,149 --> 01:56:36,800
and told them that we are in possession

2858
01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:40,159
of craft not made on this earth

2859
01:56:43,030 --> 01:56:41,280
now

2860
01:56:45,750 --> 01:56:43,040
wouldn't somebody in the senate go who

2861
01:56:48,229 --> 01:56:45,760
did you say this to what briefing

2862
01:56:50,310 --> 01:56:48,239
and and what craft uh

2863
01:56:53,030 --> 01:56:50,320
was the new york times referring to with

2864
01:56:54,470 --> 01:56:53,040
that quote that was attributed to you

2865
01:56:57,350 --> 01:56:54,480
shouldn't there be some genuine

2866
01:56:59,270 --> 01:56:57,360
follow-up uh on capitol hill with these

2867
01:57:01,189 --> 01:56:59,280
statements from eric davis

2868
01:57:02,790 --> 01:57:01,199
absolutely i don't i don't think

2869
01:57:04,229 --> 01:57:02,800
questions like that should be asked in

2870
01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:04,239
an open session i think it would be

2871
01:57:08,390 --> 01:57:06,480
counterproductive if you started outing

2872
01:57:10,229 --> 01:57:08,400
and doxing things that had been

2873
01:57:12,229 --> 01:57:10,239
previously

2874
01:57:15,350 --> 01:57:12,239
let's just say confidential in general

2875
01:57:16,950 --> 01:57:15,360
you know what i mean but those but

2876
01:57:18,870 --> 01:57:16,960
our friends and i this is inappropriate

2877
01:57:19,990 --> 01:57:18,880
unfortunately but we often say open

2878
01:57:21,669 --> 01:57:20,000
kimono

2879
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:21,679
i think behind closed doors with the

2880
01:57:24,629 --> 01:57:23,360
proper protections he should tell him

2881
01:57:26,149 --> 01:57:24,639
everything they should ask him

2882
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:26,159
everything there should be follow-on

2883
01:57:29,109 --> 01:57:27,520
questions there should be staffers

2884
01:57:31,109 --> 01:57:29,119
taking notes and doing research and

2885
01:57:32,870 --> 01:57:31,119
coming back with more questions just

2886
01:57:34,310 --> 01:57:32,880
like senator gil when senator gillibrand

2887
01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:34,320
i don't recall who she told it to but

2888
01:57:40,070 --> 01:57:37,360
when she said educate yourself oh man i

2889
01:57:42,390 --> 01:57:40,080
i just my chest puffed out i was i was

2890
01:57:44,550 --> 01:57:42,400
so happy when she said hey man go do

2891
01:57:46,870 --> 01:57:44,560
your job google this stuff and get back

2892
01:57:48,390 --> 01:57:46,880
to me man you know what like get you got

2893
01:57:51,189 --> 01:57:48,400
the library of congress down the street

2894
01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:51,199
you go find out and and get back to me

2895
01:57:53,430 --> 01:57:52,719
so

2896
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:53,440
i

2897
01:58:00,470 --> 01:57:59,679
folks educated

2898
01:58:02,629 --> 01:58:00,480
but

2899
01:58:04,870 --> 01:58:02,639
i want people to understand that if this

2900
01:58:07,030 --> 01:58:04,880
was easy eric davis would have wrote a

2901
01:58:08,790 --> 01:58:07,040
book

2902
01:58:10,709 --> 01:58:08,800
you know what i mean and like a lot of

2903
01:58:12,229 --> 01:58:10,719
people did and just retired and went

2904
01:58:15,430 --> 01:58:12,239
away but in my opinion he's still

2905
01:58:17,030 --> 01:58:15,440
working on and in this subject because

2906
01:58:20,550 --> 01:58:17,040
it matters to him

2907
01:58:22,310 --> 01:58:20,560
um if i think he's a national asset i i

2908
01:58:23,669 --> 01:58:22,320
think when i say that i mean like in

2909
01:58:24,950 --> 01:58:23,679
that i don't want to say national

2910
01:58:27,109 --> 01:58:24,960
treasure because that's really kissing

2911
01:58:29,669 --> 01:58:27,119
somebody's ass but but i think he is a

2912
01:58:32,149 --> 01:58:29,679
huge asset to this country and i think

2913
01:58:34,149 --> 01:58:32,159
that that his work and his his intellect

2914
01:58:36,390 --> 01:58:34,159
and his acumen

2915
01:58:39,189 --> 01:58:36,400
should be questioned by congress under a

2916
01:58:41,350 --> 01:58:39,199
blanket of immunity

2917
01:58:43,109 --> 01:58:41,360
and the same for kitt green and how poof

2918
01:58:45,270 --> 01:58:43,119
often these other guys

2919
01:58:47,589 --> 01:58:45,280
are you know these guys they you know

2920
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:47,599
they but then you see them get involved

2921
01:58:52,709 --> 01:58:50,320
with a a civilian and they're doing

2922
01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:52,719
their thing you know sort of on a

2923
01:58:57,189 --> 01:58:55,280
civilian level and

2924
01:58:59,430 --> 01:58:57,199
but see they've had these hearings

2925
01:59:01,589 --> 01:58:59,440
before sean they've had these these

2926
01:59:03,910 --> 01:59:01,599
closed door hearings

2927
01:59:05,990 --> 01:59:03,920
you know kevin day out of them

2928
01:59:08,390 --> 01:59:06,000
back a couple years back about it you

2929
01:59:10,310 --> 01:59:08,400
know what i mean and i wonder where that

2930
01:59:11,430 --> 01:59:10,320
goes because

2931
01:59:13,589 --> 01:59:11,440
you know something i wanted to bring up

2932
01:59:15,270 --> 01:59:13,599
because i'm getting have to go when the

2933
01:59:17,990 --> 01:59:15,280
next break but

2934
01:59:20,390 --> 01:59:18,000
you know our good friend jimmy lee

2935
01:59:23,270 --> 01:59:20,400
spiegel he bought all of this before the

2936
01:59:25,510 --> 01:59:23,280
united nations with a national hero and

2937
01:59:27,189 --> 01:59:25,520
astronaut gordon cooper

2938
01:59:28,070 --> 01:59:27,199
which reminds me and i just thought of

2939
01:59:30,950 --> 01:59:28,080
this

2940
01:59:32,550 --> 01:59:30,960
he had a team who filmed a ufo land on

2941
01:59:34,550 --> 01:59:32,560
out there at edwards air force base

2942
01:59:36,390 --> 01:59:34,560
where's that footage at

2943
01:59:38,229 --> 01:59:36,400
well he never got it back he never got a

2944
01:59:39,030 --> 01:59:38,239
follow-up well it's a one-way thing you

2945
01:59:41,030 --> 01:59:39,040
know

2946
01:59:44,149 --> 01:59:41,040
i've talked to commanders of of of

2947
01:59:46,070 --> 01:59:44,159
ohio-class nuclear submarines that have

2948
01:59:47,830 --> 01:59:46,080
very generally

2949
01:59:49,910 --> 01:59:47,840
mentioned how it's a

2950
01:59:52,390 --> 01:59:49,920
one-way communication

2951
01:59:54,310 --> 01:59:52,400
when these things move around underwater

2952
01:59:57,030 --> 01:59:54,320
and we detect them and they're not a

2953
01:59:58,390 --> 01:59:57,040
threat to the boat

2954
02:00:00,790 --> 01:59:58,400
and even if they are

2955
02:00:01,510 --> 02:00:00,800
but they send this stuff up up the chain

2956
02:00:02,950 --> 02:00:01,520
and

2957
02:00:07,669 --> 02:00:02,960
there's no

2958
02:00:09,270 --> 02:00:07,679
information coming back down the pike

2959
02:00:12,390 --> 02:00:09,280
um

2960
02:00:13,990 --> 02:00:12,400
and the same thing happens every day

2961
02:00:16,149 --> 02:00:14,000
so

2962
02:00:18,070 --> 02:00:16,159
we got to have teams of people that are

2963
02:00:19,910 --> 02:00:18,080
ready to look into things that are

2964
02:00:22,629 --> 02:00:19,920
happening today

2965
02:00:25,109 --> 02:00:22,639
that are super anomalous on the ground

2966
02:00:26,790 --> 02:00:25,119
and i think that's happening yeah yeah

2967
02:00:27,750 --> 02:00:26,800
yeah i do too

2968
02:00:29,990 --> 02:00:27,760
and

2969
02:00:32,390 --> 02:00:30,000
you know i also think that

2970
02:00:35,669 --> 02:00:32,400
going before the united nations may

2971
02:00:36,790 --> 02:00:35,679
unlock some other countries

2972
02:00:37,830 --> 02:00:36,800
uh

2973
02:00:39,189 --> 02:00:37,840
sort of

2974
02:00:42,229 --> 02:00:39,199
their

2975
02:00:44,870 --> 02:00:42,239
maybe past alliances or agreements uh

2976
02:00:46,629 --> 02:00:44,880
you know with uh united states and help

2977
02:00:49,510 --> 02:00:46,639
loosen up

2978
02:00:51,830 --> 02:00:49,520
some of those restrictions that we need

2979
02:00:54,790 --> 02:00:51,840
to get more countries involved in the

2980
02:00:56,870 --> 02:00:54,800
disclosure and the confirmation elements

2981
02:00:58,310 --> 02:00:56,880
of what we're dealing with yeah race i

2982
02:01:00,390 --> 02:00:58,320
want to thank you for taking the time to

2983
02:01:03,109 --> 02:01:00,400
come in tonight you got a network to run

2984
02:01:06,470 --> 02:01:03,119
uh but uh it was great i'm glad

2985
02:01:09,350 --> 02:01:06,480
uh that you got to say uh hello to sean

2986
02:01:12,149 --> 02:01:09,360
um i want a quick comment and you run

2987
02:01:14,950 --> 02:01:12,159
the network so we're 15 seconds past the

2988
02:01:18,070 --> 02:01:14,960
commercial break i appreciate you guys

2989
02:01:21,589 --> 02:01:18,080
don't get mad at me it's your fault but

2990
02:01:23,109 --> 02:01:21,599
is is this i had read last week uh

2991
02:01:26,709 --> 02:01:23,119
that china

2992
02:01:28,870 --> 02:01:26,719
has now formed their own version of the

2993
02:01:31,589 --> 02:01:28,880
uap task force

2994
02:01:33,510 --> 02:01:31,599
and i i think this is this is really big

2995
02:01:35,270 --> 02:01:33,520
news sean you're nodding your head i

2996
02:01:37,030 --> 02:01:35,280
think you know about this

2997
02:01:40,229 --> 02:01:37,040
well right after steve jobs created the

2998
02:01:41,830 --> 02:01:40,239
iphone china created one too so i'm not

2999
02:01:44,629 --> 02:01:41,840
surprised at that i don't mean to be a

3000
02:01:46,550 --> 02:01:44,639
total ass with that joke but but

3001
02:01:47,830 --> 02:01:46,560
the chinese are going to be just as

3002
02:01:49,990 --> 02:01:47,840
interested in anything that we're

3003
02:01:51,510 --> 02:01:50,000
interested in they're not behind the

3004
02:01:52,950 --> 02:01:51,520
eight ball on this

3005
02:01:55,669 --> 02:01:52,960
they just they just announced it

3006
02:01:57,510 --> 02:01:55,679
publicly in in in a way that that

3007
02:01:58,709 --> 02:01:57,520
matched what we did for the likes and

3008
02:02:00,310 --> 02:01:58,719
the clicks

3009
02:02:02,470 --> 02:02:00,320
you know what i mean but they've been

3010
02:02:03,669 --> 02:02:02,480
working on this they're very serious

3011
02:02:06,229 --> 02:02:03,679
about this

3012
02:02:08,310 --> 02:02:06,239
and i'm i'm concerned that their their

3013
02:02:11,430 --> 02:02:08,320
proclivities and and their human rights

3014
02:02:15,350 --> 02:02:11,440
record while ours is not spotless

3015
02:02:17,030 --> 02:02:15,360
um ours doesn't show up on satellites

3016
02:02:19,350 --> 02:02:17,040
uh our art you know what i mean like you

3017
02:02:20,470 --> 02:02:19,360
can't you can't see our our atrocities

3018
02:02:22,870 --> 02:02:20,480
from orbit

3019
02:02:25,189 --> 02:02:22,880
so i just don't know and and man i'm

3020
02:02:27,270 --> 02:02:25,199
being polarized i'm polarizing my idea

3021
02:02:29,270 --> 02:02:27,280
right now but i don't trust the the

3022
02:02:31,350 --> 02:02:29,280
chinese to take any kind of lead in this

3023
02:02:33,189 --> 02:02:31,360
subject we all need to work together we

3024
02:02:35,910 --> 02:02:33,199
certainly do especially

3025
02:02:38,470 --> 02:02:35,920
if as we've said before this level of

3026
02:02:40,950 --> 02:02:38,480
technology look race was right

3027
02:02:42,790 --> 02:02:40,960
this level of technology you can't give

3028
02:02:44,229 --> 02:02:42,800
it to everybody

3029
02:02:45,669 --> 02:02:44,239
it's the one of the first articles i

3030
02:02:46,470 --> 02:02:45,679
wrote was that the speed that the tic

3031
02:02:47,910 --> 02:02:46,480
tac

3032
02:02:49,669 --> 02:02:47,920
operates if you throw your snickers

3033
02:02:51,830 --> 02:02:49,679
wrapper out the window you just

3034
02:02:52,950 --> 02:02:51,840
destroyed a city block

3035
02:02:54,629 --> 02:02:52,960
you know what i mean it only takes a

3036
02:02:56,870 --> 02:02:54,639
grain of sand traveling at a fraction of

3037
02:02:58,950 --> 02:02:56,880
the speed of light to act like a like a

3038
02:03:00,870 --> 02:02:58,960
high explosive because of the kinetic

3039
02:03:02,950 --> 02:03:00,880
energy so

3040
02:03:04,550 --> 02:03:02,960
i'm making a joke here but look at all

3041
02:03:06,470 --> 02:03:04,560
the teenagers crashing their parents

3042
02:03:07,510 --> 02:03:06,480
teslas because the things accelerate too

3043
02:03:09,669 --> 02:03:07,520
fast

3044
02:03:11,750 --> 02:03:09,679
you know and that's just a car

3045
02:03:14,390 --> 02:03:11,760
i i can't imagine what a world war

3046
02:03:16,709 --> 02:03:14,400
fought with uap would be like as as well

3047
02:03:18,149 --> 02:03:16,719
or excuse me as einstein said world war

3048
02:03:19,830 --> 02:03:18,159
three i don't know what will be fought

3049
02:03:22,550 --> 02:03:19,840
with but world war four will be fought

3050
02:03:24,790 --> 02:03:22,560
with you know sticks and stones tricks

3051
02:03:26,229 --> 02:03:24,800
and stones yeah yeah so

3052
02:03:28,390 --> 02:03:26,239
let's take our break right here i guess

3053
02:03:30,709 --> 02:03:28,400
tonight the one and only sean cahill

3054
02:03:32,149 --> 02:03:30,719
i am your host jimmy church tonight is

3055
02:03:35,109 --> 02:03:32,159
night two

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of our ufo hearing week here on fade to

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02:03:39,270 --> 02:03:37,440
black i am your host jb church morris

3058
02:03:40,410 --> 02:03:39,280
shawn after this short break stay with

3059
02:03:47,669 --> 02:03:40,420
us

3060
02:03:53,310 --> 02:03:47,679
hi everybody this is rob harper the

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02:05:03,990 --> 02:04:59,520
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3113
02:06:24,790 --> 02:06:23,440
i couldn't stay sane without ponies to

3114
02:06:26,870 --> 02:06:24,800
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3115
02:06:28,830 --> 02:06:26,880
why fade to black

3116
02:06:33,350 --> 02:06:28,840
because you never got that

3117
02:06:39,310 --> 02:06:35,510
this is fade to black with jimmy church

3118
02:06:51,589 --> 02:06:39,320
on the game changer radio network

3119
02:06:53,350 --> 02:06:51,599
[Music]

3120
02:06:55,030 --> 02:06:53,360
welcome back fade to black i am your

3121
02:06:58,629 --> 02:06:55,040
host immature tonight night two of our

3122
02:07:01,030 --> 02:06:58,639
ufo hearing week here on fade to black

3123
02:07:03,589 --> 02:07:01,040
luella zondo says hello to everybody he

3124
02:07:06,390 --> 02:07:03,599
is traveling tonight he's on a plane

3125
02:07:08,069 --> 02:07:06,400
and uh and couldn't make the show with

3126
02:07:11,189 --> 02:07:08,079
uh sean and i

3127
02:07:13,270 --> 02:07:11,199
and uh but but i gotta say race hobbs

3128
02:07:15,589 --> 02:07:13,280
those are big shoes uh

3129
02:07:17,510 --> 02:07:15,599
to fill of lou elizondo and i think race

3130
02:07:19,510 --> 02:07:17,520
has got the biggest feat

3131
02:07:22,149 --> 02:07:19,520
of just about anybody that i know sean

3132
02:07:23,189 --> 02:07:22,159
he did a good job so thank you

3133
02:07:25,830 --> 02:07:23,199
um

3134
02:07:28,550 --> 02:07:25,840
sean who

3135
02:07:31,830 --> 02:07:28,560
who was the rear admiral of the nimitz

3136
02:07:33,189 --> 02:07:31,840
strike group uh during the incident

3137
02:07:35,910 --> 02:07:33,199
admiral curtis

3138
02:07:38,149 --> 02:07:35,920
actually went on to work for him he was

3139
02:07:41,589 --> 02:07:38,159
commander strike group 11 when i was on

3140
02:07:44,069 --> 02:07:41,599
princeton he went on to be um commander

3141
02:07:46,790 --> 02:07:44,079
naval surface forces when i was the uh

3142
02:07:50,390 --> 02:07:46,800
n34 alpha anti-terrorism guy on that

3143
02:07:52,390 --> 02:07:50,400
staff did you know uh uh rear admiral

3144
02:07:54,950 --> 02:07:52,400
daly as well

3145
02:07:56,069 --> 02:07:54,960
yes actually yeah actually excuse me

3146
02:08:01,109 --> 02:07:56,079
yeah

3147
02:08:02,870 --> 02:08:01,119
the time i believe daley was surf four

3148
02:08:03,990 --> 02:08:02,880
when admiral curtis was com car strike

3149
02:08:05,990 --> 02:08:04,000
group 11.

3150
02:08:08,550 --> 02:08:06,000
right okay so

3151
02:08:10,310 --> 02:08:08,560
i do way too much research i hope that

3152
02:08:12,550 --> 02:08:10,320
frigging impressed you

3153
02:08:14,870 --> 02:08:12,560
but no you did you did i was like holy

3154
02:08:16,149 --> 02:08:14,880
crap yeah that's uh that's five miles up

3155
02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:16,159
the road uh

3156
02:08:22,390 --> 02:08:19,360
building 34 i think on nab so yeah

3157
02:08:24,069 --> 02:08:22,400
um uh you know what was uh there's a

3158
02:08:25,189 --> 02:08:24,079
reason for this and i'm going to circle

3159
02:08:27,189 --> 02:08:25,199
back

3160
02:08:31,189 --> 02:08:27,199
i'm a military brat

3161
02:08:32,629 --> 02:08:31,199
and one of my uh fondest memories when i

3162
02:08:35,350 --> 02:08:32,639
was uh

3163
02:08:36,950 --> 02:08:35,360
my dad was stationed down in panama at

3164
02:08:41,350 --> 02:08:36,960
fort amador

3165
02:08:42,470 --> 02:08:41,360
um 1977 78 to 79 80 i was there well

3166
02:08:45,270 --> 02:08:42,480
anyway

3167
02:08:46,550 --> 02:08:45,280
um that was the southern command

3168
02:08:49,430 --> 02:08:46,560
at the time

3169
02:08:52,229 --> 02:08:49,440
and so the southern command you know in

3170
02:08:54,470 --> 02:08:52,239
defense of uh the canal zone and the

3171
02:08:56,950 --> 02:08:54,480
panama canal it was a

3172
02:08:59,030 --> 02:08:56,960
a lot of a lot of military bases and

3173
02:09:00,790 --> 02:08:59,040
infrastructure there but all of my

3174
02:09:02,069 --> 02:09:00,800
friends i mean i lived in the

3175
02:09:03,109 --> 02:09:02,079
neighborhood

3176
02:09:07,189 --> 02:09:03,119
of

3177
02:09:10,229 --> 02:09:07,199
and rear admirals

3178
02:09:11,830 --> 02:09:10,239
and uh and i hung out at their houses

3179
02:09:14,310 --> 02:09:11,840
and things and

3180
02:09:17,910 --> 02:09:14,320
and i'm always waiting for some familiar

3181
02:09:19,589 --> 02:09:17,920
name to pop up uh that i knew in in my

3182
02:09:20,550 --> 02:09:19,599
military circles you know living on

3183
02:09:24,709 --> 02:09:20,560
bases

3184
02:09:27,510 --> 02:09:24,719
um and so when i started uh looking into

3185
02:09:31,510 --> 02:09:27,520
nimitz which was way before

3186
02:09:33,750 --> 02:09:31,520
ttsa and you know before i uh i was over

3187
02:09:36,069 --> 02:09:33,760
on you know paco's website and i'm

3188
02:09:38,790 --> 02:09:36,079
looking into this and who was fravor and

3189
02:09:41,270 --> 02:09:38,800
i found the tv show that he was on and

3190
02:09:43,990 --> 02:09:41,280
and things uh it blew into something

3191
02:09:46,790 --> 02:09:44,000
else later i stumbled upon it

3192
02:09:48,550 --> 02:09:46,800
um so uh but then i found out about

3193
02:09:51,430 --> 02:09:48,560
daley and curtis

3194
02:09:52,310 --> 02:09:51,440
um and this is my question

3195
02:09:55,990 --> 02:09:52,320
um

3196
02:09:58,149 --> 02:09:56,000
in the hearings that will be happening

3197
02:10:01,109 --> 02:09:58,159
in the future

3198
02:10:02,950 --> 02:10:01,119
shouldn't it be part of the questioning

3199
02:10:05,589 --> 02:10:02,960
in the line of questions whether it's

3200
02:10:07,109 --> 02:10:05,599
from the house of representatives or

3201
02:10:10,790 --> 02:10:07,119
or the senate

3202
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:10,800
about what curtis and daley knew

3203
02:10:16,709 --> 02:10:14,400
and where those reports are today did

3204
02:10:18,870 --> 02:10:16,719
daley report this to curtis did curtis

3205
02:10:20,149 --> 02:10:18,880
report this to daily did they exchange

3206
02:10:22,950 --> 02:10:20,159
information

3207
02:10:24,950 --> 02:10:22,960
and and and and what happened

3208
02:10:26,229 --> 02:10:24,960
and and how did they look at this should

3209
02:10:28,390 --> 02:10:26,239
this be

3210
02:10:30,629 --> 02:10:28,400
if they're going to focus on 2004 and

3211
02:10:32,709 --> 02:10:30,639
forward shouldn't these fundamental

3212
02:10:35,510 --> 02:10:32,719
questions be asked

3213
02:10:37,350 --> 02:10:35,520
i they should and in fact i think using

3214
02:10:39,109 --> 02:10:37,360
the tic tac event not because i was

3215
02:10:41,189 --> 02:10:39,119
there but because it has such a great

3216
02:10:44,990 --> 02:10:41,199
example of a wealth of data surrounding

3217
02:10:46,870 --> 02:10:45,000
it it should be used as a foundational

3218
02:10:48,550 --> 02:10:46,880
investigation point

3219
02:10:51,270 --> 02:10:48,560
for for this task force and for this

3220
02:10:53,910 --> 02:10:51,280
investigation and in that sense yes

3221
02:10:55,430 --> 02:10:53,920
captain red smith of the uss princeton

3222
02:10:57,189 --> 02:10:55,440
should be called in

3223
02:10:59,910 --> 02:10:57,199
because he is the one that's ultimately

3224
02:11:01,589 --> 02:10:59,920
responsible for releasing those tapes if

3225
02:11:04,709 --> 02:11:01,599
they were

3226
02:11:06,709 --> 02:11:04,719
given to some other authority um

3227
02:11:08,709 --> 02:11:06,719
when did the deck logs

3228
02:11:11,030 --> 02:11:08,719
get confiscated when were they taken

3229
02:11:12,629 --> 02:11:11,040
because if the deck logs still existed

3230
02:11:14,310 --> 02:11:12,639
then i could identify the person that

3231
02:11:16,310 --> 02:11:14,320
was on the port bridge wing with me when

3232
02:11:17,910 --> 02:11:16,320
we saw them in the sky and we could get

3233
02:11:19,430 --> 02:11:17,920
them to come in and testify and either

3234
02:11:21,830 --> 02:11:19,440
call me a liar or say they don't

3235
02:11:23,350 --> 02:11:21,840
remember or say they what they saw

3236
02:11:25,589 --> 02:11:23,360
so

3237
02:11:27,589 --> 02:11:25,599
yes all of those people should be called

3238
02:11:29,430 --> 02:11:27,599
in now captain red smith i hate that i'm

3239
02:11:30,470 --> 02:11:29,440
not doxing him in any way it's a matter

3240
02:11:32,229 --> 02:11:30,480
of public record that he was the

3241
02:11:34,069 --> 02:11:32,239
commanding officer but he he has

3242
02:11:35,910 --> 02:11:34,079
declined thus far to provide anything to

3243
02:11:38,390 --> 02:11:35,920
the record and i do understand that this

3244
02:11:40,629 --> 02:11:38,400
isn't this is one note in the in the

3245
02:11:42,470 --> 02:11:40,639
otherwise illustrious career of a naval

3246
02:11:44,310 --> 02:11:42,480
captain i can understand if he doesn't

3247
02:11:45,910 --> 02:11:44,320
want to be defined by a ufo at the

3248
02:11:46,950 --> 02:11:45,920
twilight of his career right before he

3249
02:11:48,390 --> 02:11:46,960
retired

3250
02:11:49,910 --> 02:11:48,400
however

3251
02:11:51,990 --> 02:11:49,920
if this is a matter of matter of

3252
02:11:53,589 --> 02:11:52,000
national security as i believe it is and

3253
02:11:55,189 --> 02:11:53,599
as congress i think believes it is and

3254
02:11:56,870 --> 02:11:55,199
lou alizondo and many other people that

3255
02:11:59,910 --> 02:11:56,880
are involved in this then he i believe

3256
02:12:00,790 --> 02:11:59,920
that he has and just as as the admirals

3257
02:12:02,709 --> 02:12:00,800
do

3258
02:12:05,109 --> 02:12:02,719
they have a

3259
02:12:06,950 --> 02:12:05,119
honor dictates that you testify

3260
02:12:08,550 --> 02:12:06,960
honor dictates that you come forth and

3261
02:12:10,790 --> 02:12:08,560
you've you finish what what your

3262
02:12:12,629 --> 02:12:10,800
original oath said that you would do

3263
02:12:13,750 --> 02:12:12,639
which is to to protect and defend the

3264
02:12:16,069 --> 02:12:13,760
constitution and the people of the

3265
02:12:18,470 --> 02:12:16,079
united states of america and if there is

3266
02:12:20,390 --> 02:12:18,480
an external entity with an advanced

3267
02:12:21,910 --> 02:12:20,400
technology whether it is positive or

3268
02:12:23,350 --> 02:12:21,920
negative and you have information on

3269
02:12:24,870 --> 02:12:23,360
that then you need to come forward and

3270
02:12:27,350 --> 02:12:24,880
share that

3271
02:12:32,069 --> 02:12:27,360
there is one of the things that we need

3272
02:12:34,229 --> 02:12:32,079
to appreciate about the military

3273
02:12:36,069 --> 02:12:34,239
and tradition in history and

3274
02:12:37,589 --> 02:12:36,079
organization

3275
02:12:39,189 --> 02:12:37,599
is paperwork

3276
02:12:42,030 --> 02:12:39,199
right you

3277
02:12:44,069 --> 02:12:42,040
you sean cahill you know the

3278
02:12:46,229 --> 02:12:44,079
identification number

3279
02:12:48,470 --> 02:12:46,239
of every form that you've ever filled

3280
02:12:50,790 --> 02:12:48,480
out because you've repeated that number

3281
02:12:51,830 --> 02:12:50,800
on a daily basis throughout your career

3282
02:12:54,310 --> 02:12:51,840
correct

3283
02:12:55,830 --> 02:12:54,320
i remember i've forgotten a quite a lot

3284
02:12:57,589 --> 02:12:55,840
of them but i can still tell you all the

3285
02:13:01,350 --> 02:12:57,599
sea shanties i had to learn when i made

3286
02:13:03,990 --> 02:13:01,360
chief in 2004. so yeah i remember a lot

3287
02:13:05,510 --> 02:13:04,000
man everything is it's documented

3288
02:13:09,189 --> 02:13:05,520
everything you have to fill out

3289
02:13:10,950 --> 02:13:09,199
paperwork on every aspect of your life

3290
02:13:13,589 --> 02:13:10,960
in in the military whether it's your

3291
02:13:15,350 --> 02:13:13,599
club i had to run a request to grow my

3292
02:13:18,870 --> 02:13:15,360
first mustache that's what i'm talking

3293
02:13:22,470 --> 02:13:18,880
about right okay so therefore

3294
02:13:23,270 --> 02:13:22,480
it's one thing to request uh a mustache

3295
02:13:25,109 --> 02:13:23,280
right

3296
02:13:26,709 --> 02:13:25,119
some kind of mod haircut you want

3297
02:13:28,870 --> 02:13:26,719
something longer on the neck right

3298
02:13:32,550 --> 02:13:28,880
whatever it may be

3299
02:13:35,109 --> 02:13:32,560
uh certainly an incident like uh the

3300
02:13:38,390 --> 02:13:35,119
nimitz and uh the tic tac encounter is

3301
02:13:41,910 --> 02:13:38,400
extraordinary and there must be piles of

3302
02:13:43,189 --> 02:13:41,920
paperwork that were filled out on that

3303
02:13:45,189 --> 02:13:43,199
there should be a lot of things there

3304
02:13:47,030 --> 02:13:45,199
should be the mishap report the sitrep

3305
02:13:49,910 --> 02:13:47,040
the situation report

3306
02:13:51,189 --> 02:13:49,920
there should be the foiable emails that

3307
02:13:53,350 --> 02:13:51,199
went back and forth between the

3308
02:13:55,510 --> 02:13:53,360
operations officer on the uss nimitz and

3309
02:13:57,750 --> 02:13:55,520
the uss princeton and i can tell you i

3310
02:14:00,149 --> 02:13:57,760
still remember not verbatim but the

3311
02:14:01,990 --> 02:14:00,159
flavor and tone of the entire email

3312
02:14:03,589 --> 02:14:02,000
chain you know the 30 emails stretching

3313
02:14:04,709 --> 02:14:03,599
down to the one that the video was

3314
02:14:07,189 --> 02:14:04,719
attached to

3315
02:14:09,990 --> 02:14:07,199
where these two professionals discussed

3316
02:14:12,470 --> 02:14:10,000
birds temperature inversions

3317
02:14:14,069 --> 02:14:12,480
ghosts in the radar array you know

3318
02:14:16,149 --> 02:14:14,079
issues like that

3319
02:14:16,950 --> 02:14:16,159
and the due diligence was done but i

3320
02:14:18,870 --> 02:14:16,960
mean

3321
02:14:20,550 --> 02:14:18,880
a lot of folks are like wow they saw ufo

3322
02:14:23,109 --> 02:14:20,560
and they sent jets after it no they

3323
02:14:25,189 --> 02:14:23,119
didn't man we worked for a week before

3324
02:14:26,629 --> 02:14:25,199
kevin had the had the fortitude to walk

3325
02:14:28,709 --> 02:14:26,639
up to the captain and go sir we need to

3326
02:14:30,790 --> 02:14:28,719
send jets to go look at this

3327
02:14:33,189 --> 02:14:30,800
you know this is real it took a while to

3328
02:14:35,910 --> 02:14:33,199
get there so all of that information

3329
02:14:37,430 --> 02:14:35,920
should exist somewhere or the absence of

3330
02:14:38,950 --> 02:14:37,440
it should tell us something because

3331
02:14:40,709 --> 02:14:38,960
again if

3332
02:14:42,950 --> 02:14:40,719
there's a there's a kerfuffle or not a

3333
02:14:45,669 --> 02:14:42,960
kerfuffle there's a conspiracy and in

3334
02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:45,679
the in the definition of the word around

3335
02:14:48,790 --> 02:14:47,440
where are the radar tapes where are the

3336
02:14:50,709 --> 02:14:48,800
deck logs where is any of the

3337
02:14:52,629 --> 02:14:50,719
surrounding paperwork you know involving

3338
02:14:54,069 --> 02:14:52,639
this you've got people that were there

3339
02:14:55,990 --> 02:14:54,079
that feel that they had competent

3340
02:14:57,589 --> 02:14:56,000
authority to have known if that was

3341
02:14:58,550 --> 02:14:57,599
going to be taken or if certain things

3342
02:14:59,990 --> 02:14:58,560
were done

3343
02:15:01,270 --> 02:15:00,000
and you've got people that were that

3344
02:15:03,189 --> 02:15:01,280
that claimed to have been there that

3345
02:15:05,189 --> 02:15:03,199
said i was a witness these things were

3346
02:15:06,709 --> 02:15:05,199
done it was heavy-handed and here's how

3347
02:15:08,709 --> 02:15:06,719
it happened

3348
02:15:10,470 --> 02:15:08,719
now those are two opposing views one was

3349
02:15:12,229 --> 02:15:10,480
an eyewitness one's using a position of

3350
02:15:14,950 --> 02:15:12,239
authority to make an assumption but the

3351
02:15:16,790 --> 02:15:14,960
fact is is the stuff's not there

3352
02:15:19,270 --> 02:15:16,800
okay and i'm not pinning it on somebody

3353
02:15:21,189 --> 02:15:19,280
on the ship coming up with this

3354
02:15:22,470 --> 02:15:21,199
multi-decade or this decade-long

3355
02:15:24,069 --> 02:15:22,480
conspiracy

3356
02:15:26,390 --> 02:15:24,079
you know what i'm saying like like like

3357
02:15:28,550 --> 02:15:26,400
who stole the stuff who would do that

3358
02:15:30,149 --> 02:15:28,560
why who's going to take a deck log and

3359
02:15:31,109 --> 02:15:30,159
who's going to have access to the radar

3360
02:15:32,870 --> 02:15:31,119
tapes

3361
02:15:34,149 --> 02:15:32,880
and the deck logs when they're finished

3362
02:15:35,109 --> 02:15:34,159
being filled out and all of these other

3363
02:15:36,790 --> 02:15:35,119
things

3364
02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:36,800
so

3365
02:15:43,669 --> 02:15:39,520
all of these details would be part of a

3366
02:15:46,310 --> 02:15:43,679
proper investigation into the 2004 event

3367
02:15:49,669 --> 02:15:46,320
did atip do that i don't know

3368
02:15:51,030 --> 02:15:49,679
has the ua ptf done that i don't know

3369
02:15:52,870 --> 02:15:51,040
are those conclusions has that

3370
02:15:54,550 --> 02:15:52,880
investigation happen do we know the

3371
02:15:56,390 --> 02:15:54,560
answers i really don't know i don't even

3372
02:15:58,310 --> 02:15:56,400
have an inference i don't have a rumor

3373
02:16:00,950 --> 02:15:58,320
to share with you or anything

3374
02:16:04,550 --> 02:16:00,960
but that stuff would be the the linchpin

3375
02:16:06,550 --> 02:16:04,560
of of this 2004 investigation because

3376
02:16:09,589 --> 02:16:06,560
we're not going to tell from that video

3377
02:16:11,589 --> 02:16:09,599
or from the data what that was

3378
02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:11,599
but we need to know who was johnny on

3379
02:16:17,189 --> 02:16:15,119
the spot 10 minutes after we found it

3380
02:16:19,189 --> 02:16:17,199
and apparently was able to arrange for

3381
02:16:21,910 --> 02:16:19,199
flight out to an aircraft carrier and

3382
02:16:23,030 --> 02:16:21,920
out to a out to a a guided missile

3383
02:16:25,750 --> 02:16:23,040
cruiser

3384
02:16:27,750 --> 02:16:25,760
and not a single person involved can say

3385
02:16:29,589 --> 02:16:27,760
it was it was the bad news bears or it

3386
02:16:33,349 --> 02:16:29,599
was the scooby-doo crew or it was air

3387
02:16:35,110 --> 02:16:33,359
force or it was anybody else does the

3388
02:16:35,990 --> 02:16:35,120
does the senate

3389
02:16:38,070 --> 02:16:36,000
uh

3390
02:16:39,750 --> 02:16:38,080
or the house of representatives do they

3391
02:16:42,870 --> 02:16:39,760
have enough oversight

3392
02:16:45,429 --> 02:16:42,880
to subpoena those documents

3393
02:16:48,389 --> 02:16:45,439
the various committees certainly do

3394
02:16:50,629 --> 02:16:48,399
right you would you would think that

3395
02:16:52,469 --> 02:16:50,639
their purview is to handle that and you

3396
02:16:55,110 --> 02:16:52,479
know and from there it whether it

3397
02:16:56,790 --> 02:16:55,120
requires executive oversight or not

3398
02:16:58,790 --> 02:16:56,800
yes if our congress can't get the job

3399
02:17:02,150 --> 02:16:58,800
done what the hell what what's going on

3400
02:17:03,990 --> 02:17:02,160
here yeah there are lawmakers yes well

3401
02:17:07,270 --> 02:17:04,000
this is exactly the point i think that

3402
02:17:10,950 --> 02:17:07,280
berchette is is is talking about

3403
02:17:13,349 --> 02:17:10,960
that this this is a cover-up and if they

3404
02:17:14,549 --> 02:17:13,359
can't go and get the answers then there

3405
02:17:16,950 --> 02:17:14,559
is a problem

3406
02:17:19,190 --> 02:17:16,960
do you think that's um and this is a

3407
02:17:21,110 --> 02:17:19,200
very direct question do you think that

3408
02:17:23,589 --> 02:17:21,120
there is uh

3409
02:17:25,349 --> 02:17:23,599
whether you want to call it that's a pc

3410
02:17:27,190 --> 02:17:25,359
on pc statement

3411
02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:27,200
the good old boy network but it's a good

3412
02:17:31,030 --> 02:17:30,160
old boy and and girl network

3413
02:17:32,790 --> 02:17:31,040
yeah

3414
02:17:34,709 --> 02:17:32,800
uh that

3415
02:17:35,589 --> 02:17:34,719
they have been

3416
02:17:38,070 --> 02:17:35,599
uh

3417
02:17:39,429 --> 02:17:38,080
um

3418
02:17:42,070 --> 02:17:39,439
acclimated

3419
02:17:44,950 --> 02:17:42,080
to keeping the secrets to not having to

3420
02:17:47,589 --> 02:17:44,960
talk about it nobody has approached them

3421
02:17:49,669 --> 02:17:47,599
therefore they're not giving it up

3422
02:17:52,870 --> 02:17:49,679
right they're not they're not willingly

3423
02:17:54,709 --> 02:17:52,880
giving up anything and now suddenly it's

3424
02:17:57,190 --> 02:17:54,719
changed for them

3425
02:17:59,509 --> 02:17:57,200
is that the problem that

3426
02:18:00,549 --> 02:17:59,519
that congress and in the senate right

3427
02:18:01,990 --> 02:18:00,559
now

3428
02:18:05,349 --> 02:18:02,000
capitol hill

3429
02:18:07,429 --> 02:18:05,359
is is doing things that the military has

3430
02:18:09,589 --> 02:18:07,439
never experienced before which is giving

3431
02:18:11,589 --> 02:18:09,599
up the secrets

3432
02:18:13,429 --> 02:18:11,599
you know there's a lot to unpack there

3433
02:18:15,750 --> 02:18:13,439
but um

3434
02:18:17,509 --> 02:18:15,760
i i think that

3435
02:18:19,750 --> 02:18:17,519
yeah it's hard it's hard to to zero in

3436
02:18:20,790 --> 02:18:19,760
on a specific thing there

3437
02:18:22,709 --> 02:18:20,800
um

3438
02:18:25,190 --> 02:18:22,719
well let me let me ask you in in a

3439
02:18:27,830 --> 02:18:25,200
different way an easier way

3440
02:18:29,030 --> 02:18:27,840
after project blue book in 1969 was

3441
02:18:31,190 --> 02:18:29,040
closed

3442
02:18:33,429 --> 02:18:31,200
air force hasn't said dick

3443
02:18:34,469 --> 02:18:33,439
right

3444
02:18:38,309 --> 02:18:34,479
okay

3445
02:18:40,469 --> 02:18:38,319
well said well said and and and now and

3446
02:18:42,549 --> 02:18:40,479
now they're being asked questions

3447
02:18:44,950 --> 02:18:42,559
yeah and that's that's what i'm talking

3448
02:18:47,990 --> 02:18:44,960
about that good old boy network um

3449
02:18:49,910 --> 02:18:48,000
that's is that is that what uh

3450
02:18:52,309 --> 02:18:49,920
capitol hill is up against

3451
02:18:53,830 --> 02:18:52,319
trying to extend that yeah to an extent

3452
02:18:55,669 --> 02:18:53,840
most certainly and because i was going

3453
02:18:57,750 --> 02:18:55,679
to ask you to define which good old boy

3454
02:18:59,589 --> 02:18:57,760
network you meant because i like i said

3455
02:19:01,110 --> 02:18:59,599
i'm 49 next week i'm part of the good

3456
02:19:03,190 --> 02:19:01,120
old boy network you know what i mean

3457
02:19:05,030 --> 02:19:03,200
part of the the good old boy network i

3458
02:19:07,349 --> 02:19:05,040
come from and good old girl network and

3459
02:19:09,349 --> 02:19:07,359
everything else and it's you know it's a

3460
02:19:11,190 --> 02:19:09,359
pan specter we look like a benetton ad

3461
02:19:14,709 --> 02:19:11,200
there's everybody in it you know it's

3462
02:19:17,110 --> 02:19:14,719
not just white white dudes like me um

3463
02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:17,120
it's but it's a network of of friends

3464
02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:18,800
who've worked together and you know and

3465
02:19:22,469 --> 02:19:20,719
trust each other and and built a

3466
02:19:23,349 --> 02:19:22,479
reputation and have integrity with each

3467
02:19:25,030 --> 02:19:23,359
other

3468
02:19:26,870 --> 02:19:25,040
that's not what we're talking about here

3469
02:19:29,110 --> 02:19:26,880
we're talking about the

3470
02:19:31,110 --> 02:19:29,120
that low end good old boy network that

3471
02:19:31,910 --> 02:19:31,120
keeps the rest of us from from getting

3472
02:19:33,830 --> 02:19:31,920
in

3473
02:19:36,150 --> 02:19:33,840
you know what i mean the the the what

3474
02:19:38,150 --> 02:19:36,160
they used to call the boys club you know

3475
02:19:39,830 --> 02:19:38,160
some some folks call it limited hangout

3476
02:19:41,750 --> 02:19:39,840
and other things like that

3477
02:19:42,950 --> 02:19:41,760
uh people that move in and out of those

3478
02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:42,960
terms

3479
02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:44,960
yeah man i can't i'm not gonna blow

3480
02:19:48,790 --> 02:19:46,960
smoke up anybody's rear end on this air

3481
02:19:51,270 --> 02:19:48,800
force has not come to the table they're

3482
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:51,280
not helping they're not leading

3483
02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:53,680
and as i said on a different show man

3484
02:19:58,630 --> 02:19:56,080
how are you going to be the air force

3485
02:20:01,510 --> 02:19:58,640
and have the uap problem given to the

3486
02:20:02,550 --> 02:20:01,520
maritime force you know my uh my u.s

3487
02:20:03,670 --> 02:20:02,560
navy

3488
02:20:09,190 --> 02:20:03,680
that's

3489
02:20:12,389 --> 02:20:09,200
you you you control air and space and

3490
02:20:13,910 --> 02:20:12,399
they gave it to somebody else how come

3491
02:20:16,150 --> 02:20:13,920
where why aren't you speaking up where's

3492
02:20:19,030 --> 02:20:16,160
your people where where where's your

3493
02:20:20,790 --> 02:20:19,040
lead why we all know blue book wasn't

3494
02:20:23,590 --> 02:20:20,800
the last word on this

3495
02:20:25,750 --> 02:20:23,600
you know and sign grudge

3496
02:20:27,349 --> 02:20:25,760
you know all of these other things that

3497
02:20:29,990 --> 02:20:27,359
that we don't even know again if the

3498
02:20:31,349 --> 02:20:30,000
uaptf is aware of all these follow-on

3499
02:20:32,630 --> 02:20:31,359
programs

3500
02:20:34,790 --> 02:20:32,640
you know what i mean

3501
02:20:36,630 --> 02:20:34,800
so

3502
02:20:39,510 --> 02:20:36,640
this how do you

3503
02:20:40,790 --> 02:20:39,520
you just laid it out perfectly

3504
02:20:43,590 --> 02:20:40,800
how do you

3505
02:20:45,429 --> 02:20:43,600
there's way too much to

3506
02:20:48,309 --> 02:20:45,439
to discuss here

3507
02:20:50,550 --> 02:20:48,319
for any subcommittee or committee

3508
02:20:52,710 --> 02:20:50,560
intelligence committee budget committee

3509
02:20:54,309 --> 02:20:52,720
however you want to look at it security

3510
02:20:56,230 --> 02:20:54,319
terrorist

3511
02:20:59,990 --> 02:20:56,240
there's way too many things to cover how

3512
02:21:02,710 --> 02:21:00,000
do you keep future hearings focused and

3513
02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:02,720
and who determines the subject of the

3514
02:21:07,150 --> 02:21:03,600
day

3515
02:21:09,990 --> 02:21:07,160
it's not just ufos it's 80 million

3516
02:21:13,750 --> 02:21:10,000
subcategories there of which you just

3517
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:13,760
touched on 20 in 15 seconds

3518
02:21:18,230 --> 02:21:16,000
so i think you s you start let's have a

3519
02:21:20,950 --> 02:21:18,240
metaphor here would not confuse anybody

3520
02:21:22,630 --> 02:21:20,960
but let's start at an orbital view okay

3521
02:21:25,030 --> 02:21:22,640
our first hearing was our view from

3522
02:21:27,190 --> 02:21:25,040
orbit we cannot tell what's going on

3523
02:21:28,950 --> 02:21:27,200
down there we see the land we see some

3524
02:21:30,550 --> 02:21:28,960
lakes and some clouds

3525
02:21:32,150 --> 02:21:30,560
now we get down to a hundred thousand

3526
02:21:34,309 --> 02:21:32,160
feet

3527
02:21:37,030 --> 02:21:34,319
in the next hearing you know because as

3528
02:21:40,070 --> 02:21:37,040
i we have to educate and socialize these

3529
02:21:41,830 --> 02:21:40,080
ideas we are a niche culture in ufology

3530
02:21:44,150 --> 02:21:41,840
most people have only seen a you know a

3531
02:21:45,750 --> 02:21:44,160
season or two of ancient aliens and some

3532
02:21:46,950 --> 02:21:45,760
other shows like that or maybe one of

3533
02:21:48,710 --> 02:21:46,960
the you know the new movies or

3534
02:21:49,830 --> 02:21:48,720
documentaries that's come out

3535
02:21:52,950 --> 02:21:49,840
but

3536
02:21:55,670 --> 02:21:52,960
we have to plant our flag in realistic

3537
02:21:57,590 --> 02:21:55,680
benchmarks somewhere and then spread the

3538
02:21:59,590 --> 02:21:57,600
investigation out from those things find

3539
02:22:01,910 --> 02:21:59,600
out what was true what wasn't what's a

3540
02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:01,920
psychological overlay what's mental

3541
02:22:06,830 --> 02:22:05,280
illness what's plain old bs what's re

3542
02:22:08,710 --> 02:22:06,840
you know what's real and

3543
02:22:12,070 --> 02:22:08,720
solid and

3544
02:22:13,990 --> 02:22:12,080
so as we get as we narrow those things

3545
02:22:15,270 --> 02:22:14,000
down all of these i think all of these

3546
02:22:17,429 --> 02:22:15,280
working groups

3547
02:22:20,309 --> 02:22:17,439
think tanks other hearings are going to

3548
02:22:21,750 --> 02:22:20,319
start breaking off of this because just

3549
02:22:24,790 --> 02:22:21,760
like race was saying you know he's happy

3550
02:22:27,349 --> 02:22:24,800
we're focusing on the o and ufo

3551
02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:27,359
but the p in uap

3552
02:22:31,750 --> 02:22:30,160
is is not going away it's going to be

3553
02:22:33,590 --> 02:22:31,760
the focus of other people it's going to

3554
02:22:36,230 --> 02:22:33,600
open up into other areas but as more

3555
02:22:37,349 --> 02:22:36,240
people in academia and and industry and

3556
02:22:40,550 --> 02:22:37,359
science

3557
02:22:42,389 --> 02:22:40,560
go again those rumors were true this

3558
02:22:44,070 --> 02:22:42,399
stuff is real this stuff is connected

3559
02:22:46,150 --> 02:22:44,080
real research has been done that i won't

3560
02:22:47,510 --> 02:22:46,160
get laughed at if i read it now if

3561
02:22:49,429 --> 02:22:47,520
there's peer-reviewed papers there's

3562
02:22:51,030 --> 02:22:49,439
white papers and other things i can read

3563
02:22:52,230 --> 02:22:51,040
let me have them

3564
02:22:53,510 --> 02:22:52,240
you know and now there's enough people

3565
02:22:54,870 --> 02:22:53,520
like you and me that are that are going

3566
02:22:56,630 --> 02:22:54,880
to send those things out we're going to

3567
02:22:57,830 --> 02:22:56,640
help educate those people and then

3568
02:23:00,389 --> 02:22:57,840
they're going to take this where they

3569
02:23:02,150 --> 02:23:00,399
take it this isn't my subject it's not

3570
02:23:03,830 --> 02:23:02,160
lose it's not yours you know as much as

3571
02:23:05,429 --> 02:23:03,840
some of us you know feel like we may

3572
02:23:07,110 --> 02:23:05,439
have influence or something else if any

3573
02:23:08,230 --> 02:23:07,120
one of us disappeared this has to keep

3574
02:23:11,110 --> 02:23:08,240
going

3575
02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:11,120
this has to continue and so education is

3576
02:23:16,389 --> 02:23:14,080
key pragmatic education is key allow the

3577
02:23:18,469 --> 02:23:16,399
people who are not experiencers

3578
02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:18,479
especially

3579
02:23:23,110 --> 02:23:21,280
to take the time to understand this

3580
02:23:25,110 --> 02:23:23,120
because man if if

3581
02:23:27,110 --> 02:23:25,120
if you've never seen a dragon how do you

3582
02:23:29,750 --> 02:23:27,120
explain it to somebody else

3583
02:23:31,830 --> 02:23:29,760
you know what i mean it you it's

3584
02:23:33,270 --> 02:23:31,840
it's a wild fantastic story if you tell

3585
02:23:35,429 --> 02:23:33,280
someone i went captain and his puff the

3586
02:23:37,510 --> 02:23:35,439
magic dragon hung out for for half an

3587
02:23:39,429 --> 02:23:37,520
hour and told me his life story none of

3588
02:23:41,590 --> 02:23:39,439
us are gonna believe you and for people

3589
02:23:44,389 --> 02:23:41,600
that haven't experienced the ufo

3590
02:23:47,030 --> 02:23:44,399
phenomenon or seen objects in the sky it

3591
02:23:49,030 --> 02:23:47,040
sounds just like that to them

3592
02:23:50,950 --> 02:23:49,040
what do you think uh

3593
02:23:52,389 --> 02:23:50,960
the schedule is here

3594
02:23:53,270 --> 02:23:52,399
we know that

3595
02:23:59,270 --> 02:23:53,280
uh

3596
02:24:01,190 --> 02:23:59,280
budget with gillibrand and and the

3597
02:24:03,270 --> 02:24:01,200
verbiage at its place there

3598
02:24:04,150 --> 02:24:03,280
that we have expectations for three

3599
02:24:08,150 --> 02:24:04,160
things

3600
02:24:10,389 --> 02:24:08,160
uh two public reports semi-annual right

3601
02:24:13,349 --> 02:24:10,399
i'm assuming one in june and then one in

3602
02:24:14,469 --> 02:24:13,359
december and then a classified one in

3603
02:24:17,349 --> 02:24:14,479
december

3604
02:24:19,030 --> 02:24:17,359
that is clearly defined but what about

3605
02:24:21,110 --> 02:24:19,040
hearings

3606
02:24:23,590 --> 02:24:21,120
is this something that will happen

3607
02:24:26,230 --> 02:24:23,600
multiple times uh throughout the

3608
02:24:28,870 --> 02:24:26,240
calendar year um and what do you think

3609
02:24:31,830 --> 02:24:28,880
that schedule could be i think they'll

3610
02:24:32,790 --> 02:24:31,840
be organic and ad hoc up into the point

3611
02:24:35,590 --> 02:24:32,800
where

3612
02:24:37,030 --> 02:24:35,600
the uaptf or their their over their

3613
02:24:39,030 --> 02:24:37,040
oversight

3614
02:24:40,870 --> 02:24:39,040
realizes that this must be something

3615
02:24:43,110 --> 02:24:40,880
that's added to the standard operating

3616
02:24:44,389 --> 02:24:43,120
procedure added to the tasking that

3617
02:24:47,030 --> 02:24:44,399
these public hearing these public

3618
02:24:49,349 --> 02:24:47,040
hearings obviously are desired by the

3619
02:24:51,190 --> 02:24:49,359
public they're obviously desired by the

3620
02:24:52,710 --> 02:24:51,200
culture that you know our culture that

3621
02:24:54,550 --> 02:24:52,720
is that is pushing this

3622
02:24:57,030 --> 02:24:54,560
these ideas forward

3623
02:24:59,270 --> 02:24:57,040
we want more transparency we want more

3624
02:25:00,389 --> 02:24:59,280
openness in front of everybody

3625
02:25:03,510 --> 02:25:00,399
i think

3626
02:25:05,670 --> 02:25:03,520
that unless some monkey

3627
02:25:06,790 --> 02:25:05,680
monkey wrench flies into the the works

3628
02:25:08,469 --> 02:25:06,800
of this

3629
02:25:09,510 --> 02:25:08,479
and i know a lot of people will say you

3630
02:25:11,910 --> 02:25:09,520
know the

3631
02:25:13,349 --> 02:25:11,920
everything's a cover-up for ufos you

3632
02:25:14,870 --> 02:25:13,359
know what i mean if something happens on

3633
02:25:16,469 --> 02:25:14,880
the same day if if somebody bombs

3634
02:25:19,830 --> 02:25:16,479
somebody on the same day you always see

3635
02:25:21,670 --> 02:25:19,840
the the the traffic on on social media

3636
02:25:23,429 --> 02:25:21,680
that this is they're trying to take no

3637
02:25:25,270 --> 02:25:23,439
they're not bombing a city

3638
02:25:27,670 --> 02:25:25,280
not you know what i mean like like

3639
02:25:29,670 --> 02:25:27,680
stick to stick to the subject

3640
02:25:31,830 --> 02:25:29,680
and but keep it in the public eye keep

3641
02:25:33,750 --> 02:25:31,840
it pragmatic for now and then keep

3642
02:25:35,830 --> 02:25:33,760
building upon it i think

3643
02:25:37,429 --> 02:25:35,840
i think we're gonna see that i really do

3644
02:25:38,950 --> 02:25:37,439
i there's

3645
02:25:42,150 --> 02:25:38,960
all right let me dip into the rumor mill

3646
02:25:44,150 --> 02:25:42,160
here you're going to see folks testify

3647
02:25:47,110 --> 02:25:44,160
and if you see folks go behind closed

3648
02:25:48,550 --> 02:25:47,120
doors and testify and come out

3649
02:25:50,230 --> 02:25:48,560
you should be asking what they said

3650
02:25:52,550 --> 02:25:50,240
behind those closed doors you should be

3651
02:25:54,309 --> 02:25:52,560
asking for sanitized redacted reports

3652
02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:54,319
that don't have sources and methods that

3653
02:25:58,230 --> 02:25:56,160
give you conclusions as to what's being

3654
02:26:01,830 --> 02:25:58,240
seen and what has occurred

3655
02:26:06,469 --> 02:26:01,840
do you uh anticipate i'm hoping for this

3656
02:26:08,150 --> 02:26:06,479
uh do you anticipate a sanitized uh

3657
02:26:15,750 --> 02:26:08,160
uh

3658
02:26:18,070 --> 02:26:15,760
to the public

3659
02:26:19,990 --> 02:26:18,080
i hope so it should at some point as i

3660
02:26:22,230 --> 02:26:20,000
said it should there there are ways to

3661
02:26:24,070 --> 02:26:22,240
filter out the information that would be

3662
02:26:25,190 --> 02:26:24,080
detrimental you know what i mean you can

3663
02:26:30,389 --> 02:26:25,200
mention

3664
02:26:32,309 --> 02:26:30,399
telling someone how to build a fu a

3665
02:26:33,270 --> 02:26:32,319
fission device you know what i mean so

3666
02:26:36,389 --> 02:26:33,280
these

3667
02:26:39,030 --> 02:26:36,399
we can have this conversation but

3668
02:26:40,790 --> 02:26:39,040
you and i there's two sides to this coin

3669
02:26:42,550 --> 02:26:40,800
we have our biggest hopes and dreams

3670
02:26:44,469 --> 02:26:42,560
about what got talked about behind those

3671
02:26:46,230 --> 02:26:44,479
closed doors and how far they took it

3672
02:26:47,429 --> 02:26:46,240
and how far they went

3673
02:26:48,550 --> 02:26:47,439
and then there's the other side of the

3674
02:26:50,630 --> 02:26:48,560
coin that

3675
02:26:53,190 --> 02:26:50,640
did they are they playing it safe the

3676
02:26:56,150 --> 02:26:53,200
way i'm kind of describing in a long

3677
02:26:57,910 --> 02:26:56,160
game towards success right

3678
02:26:59,990 --> 02:26:57,920
i don't know what was said behind those

3679
02:27:01,750 --> 02:27:00,000
closed doors because as i said i don't i

3680
02:27:03,429 --> 02:27:01,760
don't receive classified material you

3681
02:27:05,510 --> 02:27:03,439
know you know what i mean that's we

3682
02:27:06,309 --> 02:27:05,520
don't screw around at all

3683
02:27:09,110 --> 02:27:06,319
so

3684
02:27:12,950 --> 02:27:09,120
i can't say i'm very hopeful

3685
02:27:17,429 --> 02:27:14,710
a lot of cool questions and correct

3686
02:27:19,590 --> 02:27:17,439
questions were asked but not enough

3687
02:27:21,349 --> 02:27:19,600
not enough too much of that was

3688
02:27:23,030 --> 02:27:21,359
i don't want to call it fluff but i

3689
02:27:24,630 --> 02:27:23,040
understand why people who expected more

3690
02:27:26,389 --> 02:27:24,640
would call aspects of it a nothing

3691
02:27:27,670 --> 02:27:26,399
burger because they're they're but a lot

3692
02:27:30,230 --> 02:27:27,680
of people were going i already knew all

3693
02:27:31,910 --> 02:27:30,240
that well this wasn't just for you this

3694
02:27:33,750 --> 02:27:31,920
is really for the people who don't know

3695
02:27:35,910 --> 02:27:33,760
a damn thing about this

3696
02:27:37,429 --> 02:27:35,920
you know because let's be real man you

3697
02:27:39,429 --> 02:27:37,439
and i have to walk up to this line and

3698
02:27:42,309 --> 02:27:39,439
walk up to the mirror and look at this

3699
02:27:44,630 --> 02:27:42,319
all none of us got this done before

3700
02:27:47,030 --> 02:27:44,640
it took all of us to get here but nobody

3701
02:27:49,590 --> 02:27:47,040
ever got it done before we're here let's

3702
02:27:51,910 --> 02:27:49,600
not throw this away we're here together

3703
02:27:54,150 --> 02:27:51,920
you know yeah and there has to be there

3704
02:27:56,469 --> 02:27:54,160
has to be a foundation laid out before

3705
02:27:58,790 --> 02:27:56,479
you build the house i mean and and

3706
02:28:00,070 --> 02:27:58,800
that's the way i look at this this first

3707
02:28:01,510 --> 02:28:00,080
hearing i thought it was just

3708
02:28:05,190 --> 02:28:01,520
extraordinary

3709
02:28:06,230 --> 02:28:05,200
um i there were there were moments there

3710
02:28:11,030 --> 02:28:06,240
um

3711
02:28:12,550 --> 02:28:11,040
i i remember

3712
02:28:16,870 --> 02:28:12,560
uh

3713
02:28:18,870 --> 02:28:16,880
ufo and uap being mentioned in the press

3714
02:28:21,030 --> 02:28:18,880
room at the white house

3715
02:28:23,190 --> 02:28:21,040
and i sat back and thought to myself

3716
02:28:24,230 --> 02:28:23,200
that has to be the first time

3717
02:28:26,550 --> 02:28:24,240
ever

3718
02:28:29,750 --> 02:28:26,560
that uap ufo

3719
02:28:31,750 --> 02:28:29,760
was mentioned in the press room at the

3720
02:28:32,630 --> 02:28:31,760
white house and how extraordinary that

3721
02:28:33,590 --> 02:28:32,640
was

3722
02:28:35,429 --> 02:28:33,600
uh

3723
02:28:37,990 --> 02:28:35,439
we need to think about that moment well

3724
02:28:39,510 --> 02:28:38,000
the same thing happened last week on may

3725
02:28:42,070 --> 02:28:39,520
17th

3726
02:28:44,790 --> 02:28:42,080
the the words the verbiage and the

3727
02:28:47,590 --> 02:28:44,800
thought that was discussed

3728
02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:47,600
that was a first time thing uh you know

3729
02:28:53,550 --> 02:28:50,080
it didn't happen for 50 years no it's

3730
02:28:57,110 --> 02:28:53,560
never happened like that that was an

3731
02:28:59,429 --> 02:28:57,120
extraordinary day but it was just laying

3732
02:29:01,670 --> 02:28:59,439
the foundation and i think that we all

3733
02:29:03,590 --> 02:29:01,680
just need to understand that uh we need

3734
02:29:05,429 --> 02:29:03,600
that to move forward and continue to

3735
02:29:07,670 --> 02:29:05,439
build this house

3736
02:29:08,469 --> 02:29:07,680
and and and i'll put it i'll say this i

3737
02:29:09,670 --> 02:29:08,479
think

3738
02:29:11,349 --> 02:29:09,680
i'm very hopeful that we're going to

3739
02:29:13,429 --> 02:29:11,359
succeed that this effort is going to

3740
02:29:15,270 --> 02:29:13,439
continue that it's going to continue to

3741
02:29:17,670 --> 02:29:15,280
look like what it does and make sense to

3742
02:29:19,510 --> 02:29:17,680
a lot of people but these foundations we

3743
02:29:21,110 --> 02:29:19,520
laid if you knock the house down the

3744
02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:21,120
foundation's still there and you build

3745
02:29:25,110 --> 02:29:22,960
again we're not quitting man the

3746
02:29:27,670 --> 02:29:25,120
foundations are there

3747
02:29:29,030 --> 02:29:27,680
sean thank you so much uh i look forward

3748
02:29:31,429 --> 02:29:29,040
we're gonna be hanging out here in the

3749
02:29:33,510 --> 02:29:31,439
next couple of weeks and uh it's gonna

3750
02:29:37,510 --> 02:29:33,520
be a lot of fun i look forward to that

3751
02:29:39,270 --> 02:29:37,520
and i am gonna tweet out some pics

3752
02:29:40,710 --> 02:29:39,280
hey sean behave and be well man you've

3753
02:29:42,150 --> 02:29:40,720
got a busy week in front of you thank

3754
02:29:44,389 --> 02:29:42,160
you for taking the time tonight my

3755
02:29:46,150 --> 02:29:44,399
friend pleasure joey thank you thank you

3756
02:29:49,190 --> 02:29:46,160
from guitar all right

3757
02:29:51,190 --> 02:29:49,200
we'll do i'll talk to you sean cahill

3758
02:29:54,150 --> 02:29:51,200
thank you so much what a great

3759
02:29:55,910 --> 02:29:54,160
conversation tonight i am going to

3760
02:29:58,950 --> 02:29:55,920
uh take a quick break and then i'm going

3761
02:30:00,630 --> 02:29:58,960
to swing back and take some phone calls

3762
02:30:02,469 --> 02:30:00,640
this is fade to black and the game

3763
02:30:04,469 --> 02:30:02,479
changer and on nx networks i also want

3764
02:30:08,870 --> 02:30:04,479
to thank grace hobbs for coming in

3765
02:30:08,880 --> 02:30:12,400
stay with us

3766
02:30:12,410 --> 02:30:20,150
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3767
02:30:23,130 --> 02:30:21,650
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3768
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3770
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3772
02:30:46,309 --> 02:30:43,429
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3839
02:34:21,429 --> 02:34:19,280
what a night here on fade to black i

3840
02:34:25,270 --> 02:34:21,439
want to thank sean cahill

3841
02:34:27,830 --> 02:34:25,280
uh just extraordinaire he is very busy

3842
02:34:30,230 --> 02:34:27,840
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3843
02:34:31,510 --> 02:34:30,240
and he came in he brought he brought his

3844
02:34:34,550 --> 02:34:31,520
a game tonight i also want to thank

3845
02:34:37,349 --> 02:34:34,560
grace hobbs uh for filling in uh for lu

3846
02:34:38,710 --> 02:34:37,359
elizondo tonight lou is out traveling

3847
02:34:41,510 --> 02:34:38,720
he's on a plane

3848
02:34:44,150 --> 02:34:41,520
as we speak normally if lou is on the

3849
02:34:47,190 --> 02:34:44,160
road and he couldn't make it in i would

3850
02:34:48,870 --> 02:34:47,200
have had him on on cell phone to to say

3851
02:34:50,070 --> 02:34:48,880
hi to everybody

3852
02:34:51,510 --> 02:34:50,080
but uh

3853
02:34:54,070 --> 02:34:51,520
we couldn't pull that off tonight he's

3854
02:34:55,990 --> 02:34:54,080
on a plane but uh safe travels lou and

3855
02:34:59,110 --> 02:34:56,000
again thank you sean

3856
02:35:01,990 --> 02:34:59,120
and uh and thank you race it was just a

3857
02:35:06,150 --> 02:35:02,000
perfect evening this is night two

3858
02:35:07,830 --> 02:35:06,160
of our ufo hearing week um would uh i

3859
02:35:10,469 --> 02:35:07,840
think will shape up to be one of the

3860
02:35:12,710 --> 02:35:10,479
most extraordinary events

3861
02:35:14,950 --> 02:35:12,720
in in history and it went down last week

3862
02:35:16,950 --> 02:35:14,960
on may 17th on tuesday

3863
02:35:20,630 --> 02:35:16,960
um i've opened up the phone line

3864
02:35:26,870 --> 02:35:23,030
and i would like to get your thoughts on

3865
02:35:28,790 --> 02:35:26,880
on where we are what the future see the

3866
02:35:30,870 --> 02:35:28,800
the thing is

3867
02:35:33,030 --> 02:35:30,880
and uh this is what i think we need to

3868
02:35:34,790 --> 02:35:33,040
make a very very clear

3869
02:35:35,910 --> 02:35:34,800
uh this is just the first of many

3870
02:35:36,790 --> 02:35:35,920
hearings

3871
02:35:37,750 --> 02:35:36,800
um

3872
02:35:45,670 --> 02:35:37,760
and

3873
02:35:50,469 --> 02:35:45,680
expect in the future

3874
02:35:53,190 --> 02:35:50,479
and the the subject itself is so broad

3875
02:35:54,389 --> 02:35:53,200
there are so many aspects

3876
02:35:57,030 --> 02:35:54,399
to it

3877
02:35:58,550 --> 02:35:57,040
i don't even want to say the phenomenon

3878
02:36:01,429 --> 02:35:58,560
with contact

3879
02:36:02,790 --> 02:36:01,439
that how do we

3880
02:36:04,309 --> 02:36:02,800
again

3881
02:36:05,349 --> 02:36:04,319
i've had something in my throat all

3882
02:36:07,910 --> 02:36:05,359
night

3883
02:36:09,830 --> 02:36:07,920
how do we handle that how do we define

3884
02:36:11,830 --> 02:36:09,840
that and and i want to go back to what

3885
02:36:12,870 --> 02:36:11,840
sean said

3886
02:36:15,270 --> 02:36:12,880
and

3887
02:36:18,389 --> 02:36:15,280
yeah i'm not i'm not in the circle you

3888
02:36:19,910 --> 02:36:18,399
know like sean is but he brought up

3889
02:36:23,270 --> 02:36:19,920
the best point

3890
02:36:25,590 --> 02:36:23,280
there's going to be breakaway hearings

3891
02:36:28,710 --> 02:36:25,600
with specific topics

3892
02:36:30,790 --> 02:36:28,720
where you can go and look into the and

3893
02:36:31,830 --> 02:36:30,800
and and that's how it's going to be

3894
02:36:34,389 --> 02:36:31,840
handled

3895
02:36:37,990 --> 02:36:34,399
um there will be of course general

3896
02:36:39,590 --> 02:36:38,000
hearings um uh that that will be there

3897
02:36:41,990 --> 02:36:39,600
but yeah he's right

3898
02:36:43,270 --> 02:36:42,000
subcommittees and and different things

3899
02:36:46,150 --> 02:36:43,280
going on

3900
02:36:48,070 --> 02:36:46,160
uh in a more specialized aspect and more

3901
02:36:50,790 --> 02:36:48,080
focused because there's just too many

3902
02:36:53,349 --> 02:36:50,800
things there is of course uh the

3903
02:36:55,910 --> 02:36:53,359
military but there's the space uh side

3904
02:36:59,030 --> 02:36:55,920
of things and space force and nasa

3905
02:37:01,110 --> 02:36:59,040
there is avi loeb there is the galileo

3906
02:37:03,750 --> 02:37:01,120
project there is science

3907
02:37:05,830 --> 02:37:03,760
um and universities that are doing this

3908
02:37:07,590 --> 02:37:05,840
research what about radio telescopes and

3909
02:37:09,830 --> 02:37:07,600
fast radio bursts and

3910
02:37:12,469 --> 02:37:09,840
and things that uh and of course

3911
02:37:15,990 --> 02:37:12,479
exoplanets there's that aspect of it and

3912
02:37:18,550 --> 02:37:16,000
then there's the the more broad

3913
02:37:20,309 --> 02:37:18,560
uh way to approach this and that is the

3914
02:37:22,630 --> 02:37:20,319
civilians and

3915
02:37:24,950 --> 02:37:22,640
and pilots and

3916
02:37:28,230 --> 02:37:24,960
and uh their testimony that is all

3917
02:37:29,349 --> 02:37:28,240
supported by data a very very strong

3918
02:37:31,510 --> 02:37:29,359
cases

3919
02:37:35,030 --> 02:37:31,520
um that need to be addressed and there

3920
02:37:41,670 --> 02:37:37,190
the coast guard

3921
02:37:43,990 --> 02:37:41,680
uh there is the marines there is the

3922
02:37:46,710 --> 02:37:44,000
army and we know about the air force of

3923
02:37:49,349 --> 02:37:46,720
course and in the navy

3924
02:37:52,389 --> 02:37:49,359
the coast guard

3925
02:37:54,870 --> 02:37:52,399
is is out there every single day

3926
02:37:57,110 --> 02:37:54,880
on our coast and out in international

3927
02:38:00,070 --> 02:37:57,120
waters uh too as well

3928
02:38:01,750 --> 02:38:00,080
well what about the coast guard who's

3929
02:38:03,990 --> 02:38:01,760
talking to the coast guard i am

3930
02:38:05,670 --> 02:38:04,000
surprised

3931
02:38:07,670 --> 02:38:05,680
that the coast guard isn't yelling right

3932
02:38:10,150 --> 02:38:07,680
now what about us

3933
02:38:11,750 --> 02:38:10,160
everybody seems to forget about us we

3934
02:38:14,790 --> 02:38:11,760
are here

3935
02:38:16,950 --> 02:38:14,800
what about the coast guard

3936
02:38:18,230 --> 02:38:16,960
and uh sean also brought up law

3937
02:38:19,750 --> 02:38:18,240
enforcement

3938
02:38:20,550 --> 02:38:19,760
and and

3939
02:38:25,830 --> 02:38:20,560
uh

3940
02:38:27,990 --> 02:38:25,840
our borders what are they seeing

3941
02:38:28,670 --> 02:38:28,000
you know and and and what is going on

3942
02:38:30,230 --> 02:38:28,680
there

3943
02:38:32,469 --> 02:38:30,240
absolutely

3944
02:38:33,830 --> 02:38:32,479
you know and and going back into i'll

3945
02:38:36,389 --> 02:38:33,840
get to phone calls in a second

3946
02:38:39,670 --> 02:38:36,399
747-228-2051

3947
02:38:42,389 --> 02:38:39,680
um there's another aspect uh to this

3948
02:38:45,910 --> 02:38:42,399
um with the historical narrative is

3949
02:38:48,309 --> 02:38:45,920
roswell going to be brought up

3950
02:38:50,230 --> 02:38:48,319
all right i'm just i'm just going to put

3951
02:38:51,349 --> 02:38:50,240
that right there is roswell going to be

3952
02:38:53,590 --> 02:38:51,359
brought up

3953
02:38:54,710 --> 02:38:53,600
what about rendelsham if we're going to

3954
02:38:56,950 --> 02:38:54,720
talk about

3955
02:38:59,349 --> 02:38:56,960
local law enforcement we have the

3956
02:39:04,230 --> 02:38:59,359
triangle sightings in st louis

3957
02:39:06,389 --> 02:39:04,240
uh we have uh uh zamora and socorro

3958
02:39:07,830 --> 02:39:06,399
uh that incident which is part of blue

3959
02:39:10,550 --> 02:39:07,840
book by the way

3960
02:39:12,710 --> 02:39:10,560
and will that be brought into the

3961
02:39:15,429 --> 02:39:12,720
historical record and

3962
02:39:17,510 --> 02:39:15,439
uh even more importantly what is going

3963
02:39:20,230 --> 02:39:17,520
to be the follow-up with

3964
02:39:22,550 --> 02:39:20,240
uh malmstrom air force base is robert

3965
02:39:25,830 --> 02:39:22,560
salas and others going to be

3966
02:39:29,190 --> 02:39:25,840
uh brought forward to uh to bring their

3967
02:39:31,270 --> 02:39:29,200
testimony i think all of these questions

3968
02:39:32,790 --> 02:39:31,280
need to be addressed and how we start to

3969
02:39:34,469 --> 02:39:32,800
move this forward

3970
02:39:36,790 --> 02:39:34,479
i i do know

3971
02:39:38,469 --> 02:39:36,800
i'm saying this is not i do believe i do

3972
02:39:41,910 --> 02:39:38,479
know that there are

3973
02:39:43,750 --> 02:39:41,920
um more hearings uh and they're gonna

3974
02:39:47,510 --> 02:39:43,760
happen quicker than you think

3975
02:39:50,950 --> 02:39:47,520
um that are on the schedule uh for 2022

3976
02:39:53,670 --> 02:39:50,960
so get ready for that let's uh

3977
02:39:56,389 --> 02:39:53,680
let me flip the page here

3978
02:39:58,469 --> 02:39:56,399
and let me get down into it because i'm

3979
02:39:59,830 --> 02:39:58,479
gonna take some calls let's see who's up

3980
02:40:01,670 --> 02:39:59,840
first hi you're live on fade to black

3981
02:40:03,590 --> 02:40:01,680
who's calling

3982
02:40:05,910 --> 02:40:03,600
hi jimmy it's lafayette

3983
02:40:07,830 --> 02:40:05,920
court of militia california how are you

3984
02:40:08,870 --> 02:40:07,840
doing i'd like to talk about that doing

3985
02:40:11,030 --> 02:40:08,880
good i'd like to talk about the

3986
02:40:11,990 --> 02:40:11,040
triangular ufos couple points three

3987
02:40:13,750 --> 02:40:12,000
points

3988
02:40:16,950 --> 02:40:13,760
uh that the navy has been making for

3989
02:40:19,190 --> 02:40:16,960
decades first why they fly seemingly

3990
02:40:21,830 --> 02:40:19,200
backwards with the base forward instead

3991
02:40:24,469 --> 02:40:21,840
of the point that you would expect

3992
02:40:26,950 --> 02:40:24,479
that goes back to bob lazar when he said

3993
02:40:29,510 --> 02:40:26,960
the the gravity-producing waves are in

3994
02:40:31,670 --> 02:40:29,520
each corner so when they overlap it

3995
02:40:33,990 --> 02:40:31,680
creates a pull in that direction

3996
02:40:35,670 --> 02:40:34,000
so it flies with the baseboard because

3997
02:40:38,230 --> 02:40:35,680
there's two gravity fields for each of

3998
02:40:40,630 --> 02:40:38,240
the corners that pull it and the back

3999
02:40:42,710 --> 02:40:40,640
one's probably just for stability

4000
02:40:46,550 --> 02:40:42,720
also uh

4001
02:40:51,269 --> 02:40:49,429
why the why they're seen in uh um oh why

4002
02:40:52,630 --> 02:40:51,279
they're in the 40s

4003
02:40:54,710 --> 02:40:52,640
because you can go they can go faster

4004
02:40:56,950 --> 02:40:54,720
than light so they can travel backwards

4005
02:40:57,670 --> 02:40:56,960
in time not necessarily in our timeline

4006
02:40:59,670 --> 02:40:57,680
but

4007
02:41:01,590 --> 02:40:59,680
the ones we see in the 40s are from

4008
02:41:03,990 --> 02:41:01,600
alternate earths

4009
02:41:05,910 --> 02:41:04,000
and thirdly why they uh

4010
02:41:07,349 --> 02:41:05,920
why they're flying over

4011
02:41:09,110 --> 02:41:07,359
villages in the middle of nowhere in

4012
02:41:10,469 --> 02:41:09,120
africa when of course the military would

4013
02:41:11,510 --> 02:41:10,479
have no interest in that and that's

4014
02:41:14,870 --> 02:41:11,520
because

4015
02:41:16,630 --> 02:41:14,880
these craft are made

4016
02:41:18,790 --> 02:41:16,640
programmed by the aliens to infiltrate

4017
02:41:20,710 --> 02:41:18,800
us and get us to make ufos that's why

4018
02:41:22,630 --> 02:41:20,720
they've been abducted and they're being

4019
02:41:24,469 --> 02:41:22,640
used for the alien agenda of breeding

4020
02:41:27,110 --> 02:41:24,479
and that also explains why uh richard

4021
02:41:29,190 --> 02:41:27,120
dolan said that at area 51 the chinese

4022
02:41:31,190 --> 02:41:29,200
have their own lab it's because the

4023
02:41:33,830 --> 02:41:31,200
aliens want to use all that

4024
02:41:35,590 --> 02:41:33,840
manufacturing capacity in china to make

4025
02:41:37,990 --> 02:41:35,600
ufos for them

4026
02:41:39,830 --> 02:41:38,000
well um

4027
02:41:42,389 --> 02:41:39,840
all good points i haven't heard a whole

4028
02:41:43,269 --> 02:41:42,399
lot about triangles flying backwards

4029
02:41:45,510 --> 02:41:43,279
but

4030
02:41:47,750 --> 02:41:45,520
because i think they fly

4031
02:41:50,630 --> 02:41:47,760
in in each direction i don't think that

4032
02:41:53,510 --> 02:41:50,640
there is necessarily a front or a back

4033
02:41:55,349 --> 02:41:53,520
but there is uh some descriptions uh

4034
02:41:58,230 --> 02:41:55,359
michael stratus talked about this and

4035
02:41:59,510 --> 02:41:58,240
david marlar and others

4036
02:42:01,349 --> 02:41:59,520
when

4037
02:42:03,750 --> 02:42:01,359
talking about different eyewitness

4038
02:42:05,910 --> 02:42:03,760
accounts with black triangles that some

4039
02:42:08,550 --> 02:42:05,920
of them have had a propulsion system on

4040
02:42:11,349 --> 02:42:08,560
the back that apparently was lit up and

4041
02:42:14,150 --> 02:42:11,359
it was uh is in some descriptions

4042
02:42:15,190 --> 02:42:14,160
almost uh a white rectangle

4043
02:42:16,550 --> 02:42:15,200
um

4044
02:42:18,309 --> 02:42:16,560
that's different

4045
02:42:20,469 --> 02:42:18,319
well yeah i'm thinking of the three

4046
02:42:21,830 --> 02:42:20,479
cornered ones with the balls of my i

4047
02:42:23,750 --> 02:42:21,840
know someone that's actually seen one of

4048
02:42:24,710 --> 02:42:23,760
those and he said it did fly base

4049
02:42:28,230 --> 02:42:24,720
forward but it kind of went in an

4050
02:42:30,710 --> 02:42:28,240
erratic way right right right right well

4051
02:42:34,070 --> 02:42:30,720
um okay but

4052
02:42:36,710 --> 02:42:34,080
i'm not so sure i've only seen uh one

4053
02:42:39,510 --> 02:42:36,720
black triangle that i took a photograph

4054
02:42:40,710 --> 02:42:39,520
of not a digital image but you know on

4055
02:42:41,510 --> 02:42:40,720
film

4056
02:42:43,750 --> 02:42:41,520
and

4057
02:42:44,950 --> 02:42:43,760
my memory

4058
02:42:47,110 --> 02:42:44,960
um

4059
02:42:49,990 --> 02:42:47,120
now you can see it in the photograph in

4060
02:42:51,190 --> 02:42:50,000
in the photograph it looks like

4061
02:42:53,510 --> 02:42:51,200
uh

4062
02:42:54,710 --> 02:42:53,520
it's it's at an angle it's not

4063
02:42:56,870 --> 02:42:54,720
necessarily

4064
02:42:59,750 --> 02:42:56,880
uh what's the word i want to say that

4065
02:43:01,670 --> 02:42:59,760
that the flat side is going forward it

4066
02:43:04,870 --> 02:43:01,680
looks more like a pyramid

4067
02:43:06,870 --> 02:43:04,880
but but for my memory with its

4068
02:43:09,349 --> 02:43:06,880
trajectory when you look at it in the

4069
02:43:12,469 --> 02:43:09,359
photograph yeah it looks like the flat

4070
02:43:14,710 --> 02:43:12,479
side or it's it's not aerodynamic is

4071
02:43:16,710 --> 02:43:14,720
what i'm trying to say it's it's right

4072
02:43:17,590 --> 02:43:16,720
whatever it is but here's the other

4073
02:43:21,429 --> 02:43:17,600
thing

4074
02:43:23,269 --> 02:43:21,439
um you mentioned african rural spots i i

4075
02:43:25,830 --> 02:43:23,279
don't think um

4076
02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:25,840
if we look at this in a general sense i

4077
02:43:31,830 --> 02:43:28,880
don't think ufo ufos fly over everything

4078
02:43:33,990 --> 02:43:31,840
everywhere all the time right you know

4079
02:43:35,510 --> 02:43:34,000
richard dolan brought that up once yeah

4080
02:43:37,269 --> 02:43:35,520
i mean it's over

4081
02:43:39,110 --> 02:43:37,279
it's over major cities it's over

4082
02:43:41,190 --> 02:43:39,120
mountains it's in the desert it's

4083
02:43:42,150 --> 02:43:41,200
everywhere yeah yeah yeah i don't think

4084
02:43:43,349 --> 02:43:42,160
they're because they're bringing you

4085
02:43:46,150 --> 02:43:43,359
know they're abducting people from

4086
02:43:48,389 --> 02:43:46,160
everywhere not just a certain area

4087
02:43:49,830 --> 02:43:48,399
yeah that's true too well lafayette

4088
02:43:51,429 --> 02:43:49,840
thank you for the phone call great show

4089
02:43:52,710 --> 02:43:51,439
tonight all right

4090
02:43:54,710 --> 02:43:52,720
it was

4091
02:43:56,710 --> 02:43:54,720
have a great night behave and it's time

4092
02:43:59,349 --> 02:43:56,720
to fade the black

4093
02:44:00,630 --> 02:43:59,359
ro jimmy rowe i'll talk to you that's

4094
02:44:02,150 --> 02:44:00,640
lafayette

4095
02:44:04,710 --> 02:44:02,160
and uh

4096
02:44:07,830 --> 02:44:04,720
let me uh let me grab this really quick

4097
02:44:09,590 --> 02:44:07,840
and and just say i've got you but i am

4098
02:44:10,469 --> 02:44:09,600
putting you on hold so just stay right

4099
02:44:11,429 --> 02:44:10,479
there

4100
02:44:14,389 --> 02:44:11,439
um

4101
02:44:16,830 --> 02:44:14,399
i yeah i don't think that uh

4102
02:44:18,790 --> 02:44:16,840
uh i've never believed that ufos are

4103
02:44:21,269 --> 02:44:18,800
selective um

4104
02:44:23,910 --> 02:44:21,279
i mean if you consider

4105
02:44:25,830 --> 02:44:23,920
uh some of the hot spots you know where

4106
02:44:27,910 --> 02:44:25,840
you've got washington and oregon and

4107
02:44:30,710 --> 02:44:27,920
northern california

4108
02:44:33,590 --> 02:44:30,720
which are mountains and trees

4109
02:44:36,150 --> 02:44:33,600
kenneth arnold and mount rainier

4110
02:44:38,389 --> 02:44:36,160
um with his incident and then a couple

4111
02:44:41,110 --> 02:44:38,399
of weeks later you've got the desert of

4112
02:44:43,750 --> 02:44:41,120
uh roswell and new mexico

4113
02:44:46,309 --> 02:44:43,760
um and and so yeah i i don't think

4114
02:44:48,630 --> 02:44:46,319
there's anything too selective here at

4115
02:44:51,590 --> 02:44:48,640
all and if you look at the you know like

4116
02:44:52,790 --> 02:44:51,600
the belgium black triangle ufo flap in

4117
02:44:54,070 --> 02:44:52,800
the 80s

4118
02:44:55,349 --> 02:44:54,080
um

4119
02:44:58,469 --> 02:44:55,359
that's over

4120
02:45:01,110 --> 02:44:58,479
uh western europe

4121
02:45:02,309 --> 02:45:01,120
and and that was that was crazy town and

4122
02:45:04,710 --> 02:45:02,319
it also

4123
02:45:07,190 --> 02:45:04,720
uh the sightings also happened over in

4124
02:45:08,550 --> 02:45:07,200
the uk at that same time let's go back

4125
02:45:12,230 --> 02:45:08,560
to the phones how you're live on fade to

4126
02:45:17,030 --> 02:45:14,550
you're live

4127
02:45:19,670 --> 02:45:17,040
hello yes

4128
02:45:22,550 --> 02:45:19,680
oh hi jimmy hi who's calling i'm just

4129
02:45:25,030 --> 02:45:22,560
i'm the new i'm the new uh fader fan i

4130
02:45:26,790 --> 02:45:25,040
just i didn't know i was on air

4131
02:45:29,030 --> 02:45:26,800
um i want to tell you he's a wonderful

4132
02:45:31,110 --> 02:45:29,040
guest i was listening to yes what's your

4133
02:45:33,590 --> 02:45:31,120
name i have not seen a black diamond but

4134
02:45:35,990 --> 02:45:33,600
i was in the air force and at akron air

4135
02:45:38,630 --> 02:45:36,000
force base in 74

4136
02:45:39,670 --> 02:45:38,640
on the flight line there was a formation

4137
02:45:41,190 --> 02:45:39,680
of three

4138
02:45:43,349 --> 02:45:41,200
oval discs

4139
02:45:45,910 --> 02:45:43,359
and we had on that base it was an

4140
02:45:47,269 --> 02:45:45,920
auxiliary base uh it was duke air force

4141
02:45:49,750 --> 02:45:47,279
base

4142
02:45:51,110 --> 02:45:49,760
uh it was from it was about 20 miles off

4143
02:45:52,389 --> 02:45:51,120
the main base

4144
02:45:54,389 --> 02:45:52,399
and

4145
02:45:56,710 --> 02:45:54,399
we were a sensory reporting post but

4146
02:45:57,990 --> 02:45:56,720
also there were missiles pointed at cuba

4147
02:46:01,510 --> 02:45:58,000
at that time

4148
02:46:03,590 --> 02:46:01,520
so they hovered over uh in a formation

4149
02:46:05,910 --> 02:46:03,600
it was three over my friend

4150
02:46:08,309 --> 02:46:05,920
was working the flight line and he he

4151
02:46:10,230 --> 02:46:08,319
got me to go up there we climbed up and

4152
02:46:12,389 --> 02:46:10,240
through binoculars you absolutely could

4153
02:46:14,230 --> 02:46:12,399
see the three oval discs

4154
02:46:16,389 --> 02:46:14,240
and they stayed in that formation for

4155
02:46:18,550 --> 02:46:16,399
about two weeks and even the civilians

4156
02:46:21,030 --> 02:46:18,560
down in florida they saw it too and they

4157
02:46:22,950 --> 02:46:21,040
made a big bruja about it

4158
02:46:25,110 --> 02:46:22,960
locally they were having the dry bins

4159
02:46:28,710 --> 02:46:25,120
back in the day and they would have an

4160
02:46:30,790 --> 02:46:28,720
all-night v-movie ufo you know

4161
02:46:33,590 --> 02:46:30,800
uh movies and they were shining beacons

4162
02:46:37,269 --> 02:46:33,600
up into the sky

4163
02:46:38,790 --> 02:46:37,279
interesting and you saw this yourself

4164
02:46:41,990 --> 02:46:38,800
yes sir i did

4165
02:46:43,510 --> 02:46:42,000
i had i had two experiences were there

4166
02:46:46,870 --> 02:46:43,520
unexplainable

4167
02:46:48,950 --> 02:46:46,880
in florida i can't swim my brother was

4168
02:46:50,950 --> 02:46:48,960
in it went into the navy not knowing how

4169
02:46:53,670 --> 02:46:50,960
to swim but he had the wrong house room

4170
02:46:55,190 --> 02:46:53,680
to get get there i was in the air force

4171
02:46:57,590 --> 02:46:55,200
i had an out-of-the-body experience i

4172
02:46:59,830 --> 02:46:57,600
didn't know how to swim either and

4173
02:47:02,630 --> 02:46:59,840
my friends were said they were certified

4174
02:47:04,870 --> 02:47:02,640
and we were in a swimming hole and i

4175
02:47:06,389 --> 02:47:04,880
actually had the third time coming up i

4176
02:47:08,389 --> 02:47:06,399
was out of my body

4177
02:47:11,429 --> 02:47:08,399
and i saw myself in the water and was

4178
02:47:14,150 --> 02:47:11,439
back in that quickly so your mind

4179
02:47:17,030 --> 02:47:14,160
has a lot to do and and what's going on

4180
02:47:19,349 --> 02:47:17,040
in the skies i'm always vigilant i've

4181
02:47:21,750 --> 02:47:19,359
seen things i'm in pittsburgh i've seen

4182
02:47:22,550 --> 02:47:21,760
things jimmy in some of the quadrants

4183
02:47:24,870 --> 02:47:22,560
that

4184
02:47:28,150 --> 02:47:24,880
i i can't explain but i put them on on

4185
02:47:29,990 --> 02:47:28,160
camera myself we have devices now we can

4186
02:47:32,070 --> 02:47:30,000
pick up anything

4187
02:47:33,429 --> 02:47:32,080
that just doesn't can't be explained and

4188
02:47:35,110 --> 02:47:33,439
the tic tacs

4189
02:47:37,590 --> 02:47:35,120
they didn't show enough in the

4190
02:47:39,510 --> 02:47:37,600
congressional earrings they that was

4191
02:47:41,670 --> 02:47:39,520
pete that was poo poo

4192
02:47:42,469 --> 02:47:41,680
you know i mean there's so much more to

4193
02:47:46,070 --> 02:47:42,479
it

4194
02:47:47,590 --> 02:47:46,080
in in the um

4195
02:47:49,429 --> 02:47:47,600
it's in the oceans

4196
02:47:53,190 --> 02:47:49,439
and why are they

4197
02:47:55,110 --> 02:47:53,200
so keen on antarctica right now

4198
02:47:57,990 --> 02:47:55,120
well these are all these are all the

4199
02:48:02,150 --> 02:47:58,000
questions that this community has

4200
02:48:04,469 --> 02:48:02,160
and i i appreciate some of the focus

4201
02:48:06,790 --> 02:48:04,479
that the media is starting to

4202
02:48:10,230 --> 02:48:06,800
uh apply to these things

4203
02:48:13,190 --> 02:48:10,240
and eventually if if we keep moving like

4204
02:48:25,670 --> 02:48:13,200
we are oh by the way what's your name

4205
02:48:31,670 --> 02:48:27,830
as we move forward

4206
02:48:32,870 --> 02:48:31,680
and this uh elevates and continues to

4207
02:48:34,950 --> 02:48:32,880
elevate

4208
02:48:37,429 --> 02:48:34,960
um the media is going to cover these

4209
02:48:40,230 --> 02:48:37,439
things and and maybe antarctica will

4210
02:48:42,389 --> 02:48:40,240
come into the mix as it should

4211
02:48:45,429 --> 02:48:42,399
um there there's just way too many

4212
02:48:46,710 --> 02:48:45,439
unanswered questions here um so how long

4213
02:48:48,710 --> 02:48:46,720
do you think it's going to take jimmy

4214
02:48:51,990 --> 02:48:48,720
before the truth actually starts to come

4215
02:48:53,990 --> 02:48:52,000
out in lesson trickles yeah well i think

4216
02:48:55,830 --> 02:48:54,000
it's coming out now though

4217
02:48:59,990 --> 02:48:55,840
um and i don't think it's coming out in

4218
02:49:01,910 --> 02:49:00,000
trickles anymore um so that that's my

4219
02:49:07,030 --> 02:49:01,920
take now how long

4220
02:49:10,710 --> 02:49:07,040
um until we we we go to crazy town right

4221
02:49:13,030 --> 02:49:10,720
uh we're there yeah i i think uh 2022

4222
02:49:15,510 --> 02:49:13,040
uh very clearly

4223
02:49:16,230 --> 02:49:15,520
uh could be the year where

4224
02:49:19,429 --> 02:49:16,240
uh

4225
02:49:22,070 --> 02:49:19,439
these final questions are answered i i

4226
02:49:26,230 --> 02:49:22,080
still firmly believe though west that

4227
02:49:28,389 --> 02:49:26,240
it's it's going to be an incident or an

4228
02:49:29,750 --> 02:49:28,399
incident or an occurrence

4229
02:49:32,870 --> 02:49:29,760
uh outside of the control of the

4230
02:49:34,070 --> 02:49:32,880
government and they are gone

4231
02:49:38,150 --> 02:49:34,080
but

4232
02:49:40,389 --> 02:49:38,160
the thing it seems like they're showing

4233
02:49:41,590 --> 02:49:40,399
up in hot spots in mexico

4234
02:49:43,110 --> 02:49:41,600
in brazil

4235
02:49:45,830 --> 02:49:43,120
uh japan

4236
02:49:48,469 --> 02:49:45,840
and i think jimmy this is my opinion i

4237
02:49:51,750 --> 02:49:48,479
was stationed in misawa japan

4238
02:49:54,710 --> 02:49:51,760
japan's government are the most peaceful

4239
02:49:57,670 --> 02:49:54,720
after after they were their two cities

4240
02:49:59,990 --> 02:49:57,680
were basically destroyed by us um

4241
02:50:02,790 --> 02:50:00,000
they didn't want to have the situation

4242
02:50:05,269 --> 02:50:02,800
the military stance they have right now

4243
02:50:06,710 --> 02:50:05,279
because of north korea because of china

4244
02:50:09,750 --> 02:50:06,720
being aggressive

4245
02:50:11,830 --> 02:50:09,760
but i think their culture and

4246
02:50:14,070 --> 02:50:11,840
that would be the best contact

4247
02:50:15,990 --> 02:50:14,080
for any kind of a higher

4248
02:50:17,429 --> 02:50:16,000
terrestrial being or extraterrestrial

4249
02:50:19,190 --> 02:50:17,439
beings if they were going to make

4250
02:50:21,030 --> 02:50:19,200
contact with us

4251
02:50:23,030 --> 02:50:21,040
don't you think uh

4252
02:50:24,230 --> 02:50:23,040
that's a really good point

4253
02:50:27,030 --> 02:50:24,240
um

4254
02:50:29,429 --> 02:50:27,040
we always focus on the united states

4255
02:50:31,349 --> 02:50:29,439
like this is an exclusive united states

4256
02:50:33,590 --> 02:50:31,359
issue and it's not

4257
02:50:38,309 --> 02:50:33,600
um clearly it is not

4258
02:50:40,150 --> 02:50:38,319
um but uh it will and this just goes

4259
02:50:42,070 --> 02:50:40,160
back to your point

4260
02:50:44,070 --> 02:50:42,080
i think it's going to unite the entire

4261
02:50:46,309 --> 02:50:44,080
planet

4262
02:50:48,469 --> 02:50:46,319
there's just no way

4263
02:50:50,070 --> 02:50:48,479
uh because we're earthlings

4264
02:50:53,349 --> 02:50:50,080
you know we're not americans in

4265
02:50:55,590 --> 02:50:53,359
europeans yeah we're all humans man and

4266
02:50:57,750 --> 02:50:55,600
we all share the same dna

4267
02:50:59,750 --> 02:50:57,760
and and that's the way that i look at it

4268
02:51:01,429 --> 02:50:59,760
and i will i will never change and it

4269
02:51:04,790 --> 02:51:01,439
will definitely

4270
02:51:07,030 --> 02:51:04,800
100 percent unite the entire planet what

4271
02:51:09,110 --> 02:51:07,040
if vt comes and says hey we're not

4272
02:51:11,590 --> 02:51:09,120
interested in just talking to the united

4273
02:51:14,349 --> 02:51:11,600
states you know maybe we can go to the

4274
02:51:16,389 --> 02:51:14,359
united nations but we're talking to

4275
02:51:18,469 --> 02:51:16,399
everybody here

4276
02:51:20,070 --> 02:51:18,479
not just the potus

4277
02:51:21,190 --> 02:51:20,080
or we're not are we talking about

4278
02:51:22,870 --> 02:51:21,200
platoon

4279
02:51:24,870 --> 02:51:22,880
yeah exactly

4280
02:51:28,309 --> 02:51:24,880
but that's exactly the point

4281
02:51:29,910 --> 02:51:28,319
you know and uh if we go to if we did

4282
02:51:33,110 --> 02:51:29,920
the same thing

4283
02:51:35,190 --> 02:51:33,120
and we visited another planet what we're

4284
02:51:36,309 --> 02:51:35,200
we're only going to focus on

4285
02:51:38,550 --> 02:51:36,319
uh

4286
02:51:40,389 --> 02:51:38,560
one country or one

4287
02:51:42,309 --> 02:51:40,399
no we're we're going to speak to the

4288
02:51:44,309 --> 02:51:42,319
entire planet

4289
02:51:47,190 --> 02:51:44,319
we're not uh

4290
02:51:49,349 --> 02:51:47,200
you know and that we have to

4291
02:51:50,870 --> 02:51:49,359
and look i don't want to sound like some

4292
02:51:53,510 --> 02:51:50,880
hippie-dippy

4293
02:51:56,630 --> 02:51:53,520
radio host i i i just don't want to

4294
02:51:59,110 --> 02:51:56,640
sound that way but we have to

4295
02:52:01,510 --> 02:51:59,120
uh stop looking at borders and and

4296
02:52:04,389 --> 02:52:01,520
looking at the differences uh

4297
02:52:06,150 --> 02:52:04,399
that we think are there between us uh we

4298
02:52:08,389 --> 02:52:06,160
have to have another approach and it has

4299
02:52:10,870 --> 02:52:08,399
to happen now all right wes enjoy the

4300
02:52:13,429 --> 02:52:10,880
russians born on immigrants but my

4301
02:52:14,469 --> 02:52:13,439
family is indigent or

4302
02:52:16,950 --> 02:52:14,479
indigenous

4303
02:52:18,630 --> 02:52:16,960
i'm more native american so i've got

4304
02:52:21,030 --> 02:52:18,640
grudges you know with my country to

4305
02:52:24,469 --> 02:52:21,040
begin with but i served in my country

4306
02:52:27,510 --> 02:52:24,479
and and truthfully there's just too much

4307
02:52:28,710 --> 02:52:27,520
uh non-disclosure they haven't exposed

4308
02:52:30,710 --> 02:52:28,720
anything

4309
02:52:32,790 --> 02:52:30,720
a relevance yet jimmy and i like you

4310
02:52:34,309 --> 02:52:32,800
said the tip of the iceberg it is and

4311
02:52:36,950 --> 02:52:34,319
then we'll go to antarctica and figure

4312
02:52:39,349 --> 02:52:36,960
that one out wes enjoy the rest of your

4313
02:52:41,590 --> 02:52:39,359
night and we will see you tomorrow right

4314
02:52:43,429 --> 02:52:41,600
here on fade to black that's a great

4315
02:52:45,750 --> 02:52:43,439
phone call right there

4316
02:52:47,990 --> 02:52:45,760
and uh yeah i mean

4317
02:52:49,910 --> 02:52:48,000
there isn't another way to really look

4318
02:52:52,070 --> 02:52:49,920
at it is there

4319
02:52:57,590 --> 02:52:52,080
right it would

4320
02:53:00,230 --> 02:52:57,600
we would be forced into i had said um

4321
02:53:01,429 --> 02:53:00,240
i had said many years ago i'm gonna go

4322
02:53:03,030 --> 02:53:01,439
back

4323
02:53:05,750 --> 02:53:03,040
i've done way too many shows and i say

4324
02:53:08,309 --> 02:53:05,760
this too often i said this many years

4325
02:53:11,510 --> 02:53:08,319
ago but it's true

4326
02:53:13,830 --> 02:53:11,520
in that um i had said you want you

4327
02:53:17,190 --> 02:53:13,840
really want to unite this planet

4328
02:53:19,269 --> 02:53:17,200
right now you want to unite this planet

4329
02:53:24,389 --> 02:53:19,279
let's get off of it

4330
02:53:27,349 --> 02:53:24,399
together let's start building

4331
02:53:30,550 --> 02:53:27,359
a starship out there uh

4332
02:53:32,790 --> 02:53:30,560
orbiting uh the planet let's start

4333
02:53:34,710 --> 02:53:32,800
building this thing and

4334
02:53:35,590 --> 02:53:34,720
you know uh for a hundred thousand

4335
02:53:37,670 --> 02:53:35,600
people

4336
02:53:39,429 --> 02:53:37,680
let's populate that thing and send it

4337
02:53:43,110 --> 02:53:39,439
out to the stars

4338
02:53:46,469 --> 02:53:43,120
and that would unite the planet

4339
02:53:48,469 --> 02:53:46,479
that would let's it's all get together

4340
02:53:49,590 --> 02:53:48,479
you know and

4341
02:53:54,870 --> 02:53:49,600
that

4342
02:53:58,469 --> 02:53:54,880
to change

4343
02:53:59,510 --> 02:53:58,479
from just considering ourselves

4344
02:54:01,269 --> 02:53:59,520
to

4345
02:54:03,670 --> 02:54:01,279
considering

4346
02:54:04,710 --> 02:54:03,680
our place in the universe

4347
02:54:07,190 --> 02:54:04,720
right

4348
02:54:10,550 --> 02:54:07,200
we are the planet earth

4349
02:54:11,910 --> 02:54:10,560
we we are not the planet of 179

4350
02:54:14,230 --> 02:54:11,920
countries

4351
02:54:15,349 --> 02:54:14,240
and north korea

4352
02:54:19,590 --> 02:54:15,359
we're not

4353
02:54:22,710 --> 02:54:19,600
we're planet earth

4354
02:54:26,150 --> 02:54:22,720
you know and and that's the way we need

4355
02:54:26,950 --> 02:54:26,160
to look at ourselves

4356
02:54:32,389 --> 02:54:26,960
um

4357
02:54:33,750 --> 02:54:32,399
i'm going to share this i love science

4358
02:54:34,870 --> 02:54:33,760
fiction movies

4359
02:54:37,429 --> 02:54:34,880
i love

4360
02:54:42,070 --> 02:54:37,439
science fiction tv series

4361
02:54:44,389 --> 02:54:42,080
and the one thing that is repeated over

4362
02:54:46,230 --> 02:54:44,399
and over again and i'm just so surprised

4363
02:54:49,750 --> 02:54:46,240
that people just don't science fiction

4364
02:54:52,389 --> 02:54:49,760
writers will address the issue um uh but

4365
02:54:54,870 --> 02:54:52,399
our community won't and and

4366
02:54:56,870 --> 02:54:54,880
and politicians won't

4367
02:54:58,630 --> 02:54:56,880
you know and world leaders won't which

4368
02:55:02,230 --> 02:54:58,640
is this

4369
02:55:04,790 --> 02:55:02,240
every time we go to uh a planet in some

4370
02:55:08,950 --> 02:55:04,800
science fiction movie or tv series

4371
02:55:11,030 --> 02:55:08,960
and we see ourselves in other words

4372
02:55:13,590 --> 02:55:11,040
a primitive race

4373
02:55:16,710 --> 02:55:13,600
still fighting amongst each other

4374
02:55:19,349 --> 02:55:16,720
and and wars and battles and arguments

4375
02:55:22,230 --> 02:55:19,359
and fighting over territory and land and

4376
02:55:24,550 --> 02:55:22,240
religion and whatever food

4377
02:55:26,389 --> 02:55:24,560
and we look at that and we laugh

4378
02:55:27,670 --> 02:55:26,399
like how can how can they be so

4379
02:55:32,150 --> 02:55:27,680
primitive

4380
02:55:33,510 --> 02:55:32,160
how can they be like that well that's us

4381
02:55:36,469 --> 02:55:33,520
that's us

4382
02:55:38,309 --> 02:55:36,479
and there is no other way to look at it

4383
02:55:40,150 --> 02:55:38,319
than this

4384
02:55:43,349 --> 02:55:40,160
to e.t

4385
02:55:45,510 --> 02:55:43,359
we are the aliens

4386
02:55:48,790 --> 02:55:45,520
we want to think you know we were so

4387
02:55:51,349 --> 02:55:48,800
fixated on it being the other way around

4388
02:55:52,870 --> 02:55:51,359
aliens extraterrestrial you know them

4389
02:55:54,230 --> 02:55:52,880
them them

4390
02:55:56,389 --> 02:55:54,240
to them

4391
02:55:58,469 --> 02:55:56,399
we are e.t

4392
02:56:01,429 --> 02:55:58,479
we are the aliens

4393
02:56:03,429 --> 02:56:01,439
so how do we represent ourselves because

4394
02:56:05,830 --> 02:56:03,439
i guarantee you

4395
02:56:07,910 --> 02:56:05,840
when uh they discover earth or they've

4396
02:56:09,910 --> 02:56:07,920
discovered earth or they visited earth

4397
02:56:12,190 --> 02:56:09,920
and they send the reports back they're

4398
02:56:15,630 --> 02:56:12,200
writing it up we encountered an

4399
02:56:17,429 --> 02:56:15,640
extraterrestrial race on planet

4400
02:56:20,070 --> 02:56:17,439
xyz123

4401
02:56:23,990 --> 02:56:22,230
that's how they look at us

4402
02:56:26,630 --> 02:56:24,000
they're still fighting amongst each

4403
02:56:28,070 --> 02:56:26,640
other killing each other with with

4404
02:56:29,110 --> 02:56:28,080
uh

4405
02:56:30,309 --> 02:56:29,120
bullets

4406
02:56:32,950 --> 02:56:30,319
in the street

4407
02:56:33,990 --> 02:56:32,960
firing rockets and chemicals at each

4408
02:56:36,790 --> 02:56:34,000
other

4409
02:56:39,030 --> 02:56:36,800
fighting over territory and land and

4410
02:56:41,510 --> 02:56:39,040
money

4411
02:56:43,510 --> 02:56:41,520
how primitive is that well that's the

4412
02:56:45,590 --> 02:56:43,520
way that they would look at us and that

4413
02:56:48,230 --> 02:56:45,600
has to change

4414
02:56:50,710 --> 02:56:48,240
it it just does

4415
02:56:53,670 --> 02:56:50,720
so there you go when e.t arrives here

4416
02:56:56,630 --> 02:56:53,680
what happens you know who does e.t reach

4417
02:56:59,429 --> 02:56:56,640
out to who does e.t ask for

4418
02:57:01,190 --> 02:56:59,439
and and we you know take me to your

4419
02:57:03,269 --> 02:57:01,200
leader who is that

4420
02:57:04,309 --> 02:57:03,279
i mean literally i mean we hear it all

4421
02:57:06,230 --> 02:57:04,319
the time

4422
02:57:09,190 --> 02:57:06,240
who is the leader

4423
02:57:11,670 --> 02:57:09,200
where does et go where do we take him

4424
02:57:14,150 --> 02:57:11,680
and is that to

4425
02:57:16,150 --> 02:57:14,160
the united nations

4426
02:57:17,750 --> 02:57:16,160
is is that what happened what's the

4427
02:57:20,830 --> 02:57:17,760
protocol

4428
02:57:23,590 --> 02:57:20,840
you know it and you know there is one

4429
02:57:25,429 --> 02:57:23,600
um great question for the senate

4430
02:57:28,950 --> 02:57:25,439
intelligence committee

4431
02:57:31,190 --> 02:57:28,960
great question uh for the committee on

4432
02:57:32,309 --> 02:57:31,200
on intelligence uh you know with andre

4433
02:57:33,910 --> 02:57:32,319
carson

4434
02:57:36,710 --> 02:57:33,920
what's the protocol

4435
02:57:39,510 --> 02:57:36,720
oh we don't have one yeah you do

4436
02:57:43,030 --> 02:57:39,520
you've got a protocol when e.t shows up

4437
02:57:45,349 --> 02:57:43,040
here and and you're forced into

4438
02:57:47,590 --> 02:57:45,359
right a conversation there is part of

4439
02:57:49,110 --> 02:57:47,600
what's what's the protocol

4440
02:57:51,750 --> 02:57:49,120
you know what does the united nations

4441
02:57:54,630 --> 02:57:51,760
have to say to this do we bring in

4442
02:57:56,309 --> 02:57:54,640
uh our ambassador to the united nations

4443
02:57:57,990 --> 02:57:56,319
and say what's in the books you know

4444
02:58:01,429 --> 02:57:58,000
what happens

4445
02:58:03,429 --> 02:58:01,439
what do we do i um before i let you go

4446
02:58:04,790 --> 02:58:03,439
um this was

4447
02:58:05,910 --> 02:58:04,800
i'm going to guess i'm going to say five

4448
02:58:08,309 --> 02:58:05,920
years ago

4449
02:58:11,590 --> 02:58:08,319
this really happened

4450
02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:11,600
um a member of our family died

4451
02:58:16,230 --> 02:58:12,560
in a

4452
02:58:19,269 --> 02:58:16,240
uh retirement home and

4453
02:58:20,230 --> 02:58:19,279
so i go over i'm with rita

4454
02:58:22,230 --> 02:58:20,240
and

4455
02:58:23,750 --> 02:58:22,240
so to make a long story short the police

4456
02:58:25,030 --> 02:58:23,760
had to be called and we're waiting for

4457
02:58:28,550 --> 02:58:25,040
the coroner

4458
02:58:30,630 --> 02:58:28,560
and uh the police show up and there's uh

4459
02:58:33,190 --> 02:58:30,640
there's like an like a lieutenant or

4460
02:58:35,590 --> 02:58:33,200
something and and then just a

4461
02:58:37,830 --> 02:58:35,600
whatever you call a normal cop

4462
02:58:39,910 --> 02:58:37,840
and uh the lieutenant comes in and says

4463
02:58:42,710 --> 02:58:39,920
hey

4464
02:58:45,830 --> 02:58:42,720
i'm gonna split you hang here

4465
02:58:47,110 --> 02:58:45,840
you can't leave a a body alone right um

4466
02:58:49,030 --> 02:58:47,120
and i'll be back

4467
02:58:51,830 --> 02:58:49,040
radio if you need me

4468
02:58:54,150 --> 02:58:51,840
so he splits but now i'm alone it's just

4469
02:58:55,429 --> 02:58:54,160
me and this cop

4470
02:58:58,950 --> 02:58:55,439
and

4471
02:59:02,389 --> 02:58:58,960
uh i said hey

4472
02:59:05,349 --> 02:59:02,399
ever see a ufo he goes no

4473
02:59:07,110 --> 02:59:05,359
and i said okay uh well this is what i

4474
02:59:08,630 --> 02:59:07,120
do you know and i kind of spelled it out

4475
02:59:09,590 --> 02:59:08,640
for me because oh okay all right all

4476
02:59:10,710 --> 02:59:09,600
right

4477
02:59:11,990 --> 02:59:10,720
um

4478
02:59:14,950 --> 02:59:12,000
i said

4479
02:59:15,990 --> 02:59:14,960
have you received any ufo training

4480
02:59:18,309 --> 02:59:16,000
no

4481
02:59:21,590 --> 02:59:18,319
at the police academy any

4482
02:59:25,030 --> 02:59:21,600
any protocol there if a ufo lands on on

4483
02:59:27,349 --> 02:59:25,040
sherman way in the valley nope

4484
02:59:29,590 --> 02:59:27,359
what would you do i don't know

4485
02:59:32,630 --> 02:59:29,600
i don't know i guess i'd call it in what

4486
02:59:34,389 --> 02:59:32,640
would you call in a flying saucer

4487
02:59:36,710 --> 02:59:34,399
is uh

4488
02:59:38,950 --> 02:59:36,720
sherman way what's the protocol does the

4489
02:59:41,429 --> 02:59:38,960
army come in i don't know

4490
02:59:44,630 --> 02:59:41,439
i don't know now is he being truthful i

4491
02:59:47,830 --> 02:59:44,640
think in the basic sense he is

4492
02:59:49,110 --> 02:59:47,840
but there must be a protocol there's got

4493
02:59:52,950 --> 02:59:49,120
to be something

4494
02:59:53,990 --> 02:59:52,960
in the mayor's office in los angeles or

4495
02:59:58,469 --> 02:59:54,000
or

4496
03:00:00,469 --> 02:59:58,479
chicago

4497
03:00:03,110 --> 03:00:00,479
um there there's got to be something in

4498
03:00:05,269 --> 03:00:03,120
play there has to be there they've got

4499
03:00:06,150 --> 03:00:05,279
the three-ring binder that they whip

4500
03:00:08,389 --> 03:00:06,160
open

4501
03:00:10,070 --> 03:00:08,399
and what is that and let's go up another

4502
03:00:12,630 --> 03:00:10,080
level you know what what is the play

4503
03:00:14,309 --> 03:00:12,640
with the united nations what is the play

4504
03:00:16,389 --> 03:00:14,319
with the white house

4505
03:00:19,110 --> 03:00:16,399
you know and and are these answers that

4506
03:00:21,269 --> 03:00:19,120
we should have absolutely and that's why

4507
03:00:23,750 --> 03:00:21,279
these hearings are so exciting it just

4508
03:00:25,910 --> 03:00:23,760
seems like we can ask anything now

4509
03:00:27,750 --> 03:00:25,920
everything is on the table all right

4510
03:00:29,990 --> 03:00:27,760
great show tonight i want to thank sean

4511
03:00:32,309 --> 03:00:30,000
cahill uh

4512
03:00:34,070 --> 03:00:32,319
another great conversation and he is out

4513
03:00:35,670 --> 03:00:34,080
there getting it done

4514
03:00:38,150 --> 03:00:35,680
for us

4515
03:00:40,389 --> 03:00:38,160
thank you sean absolutely incredible i

4516
03:00:44,070 --> 03:00:40,399
also want to thank race hobbs

4517
03:00:45,990 --> 03:00:44,080
grace hobbs coming in strong tonight

4518
03:00:48,469 --> 03:00:46,000
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03:01:24,630 --> 03:01:21,760
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03:01:26,150 --> 03:01:24,640
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